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Post by jocksinclair on Dec 23, 2023 17:11:25 GMT -5
So I had my first annual around Christmas time tradition of watching the Mst3k shorts compilation tape my dad made around 1999 (roughly) that I shared a couple pages back, which I am still VERY grateful we got a good capture on Kolos’s Sony VCR in spite of some bad existing tape blips here and there that I can live with, but this is one thing that has really bothered me with YouTube’s quality decompression. Does this milk-aged website just not take kindly to 480p files anymore? Cause while this is something I noticed with episode recordings of mine that he uploaded on his channel, THIS one in particular I noticed REALLY looks A LOT more pixelated in some areas. I’m understanding this particular tape was beaten to death and it is a 2nd gen tape, but man, if this is the case, I’m SERIOUSLY uploading this onto my IA and playing it off THERE from now on. Youtube is terrible for compression, but archive isn't great either, if you are looking for a place to upload stuff so you can watch it, vimeo is a better option than either of those. There might be an even better one since the last time I tested it, but I have always been happy with vimeo.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Dec 23, 2023 17:15:17 GMT -5
Well I mean from my experience Internet Archive actually has much better results with picture quality at 480p, I’ve personally skimmed through a couple of the tapes that Kolos captured and finalized for me with no issues at all other than maybe occasional buffering here and there. I’m not really sure what kind of experience you had with quality issues but I’d be curious to hear any examples.
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Post by jocksinclair on Dec 24, 2023 1:01:16 GMT -5
Files that I've gotten from archive tend to have the same problem, where frames get duplicated, creating a jitter like when films are converted to NTSC TV (it's not the same as 3:2 pulldown because the files tend to already be 29.97 because most of what I find on archive tends to be TV stuff). I don't know what it's doing, but it was common enough that I figured it was doing something, or maybe just not compatible with some common codec.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Dec 25, 2023 12:03:28 GMT -5
Okay, I really need to know this after watching a couple August 1994 recordings of episodes (I watched one of “Santa Claus Conquers the Martians” last night):
Is “Small Doses” available anywhere….. ANYWHERE in full episodes? The closest I’ve been able to find are a couple “Food for thought” sketches with Blaine Capatch and Patton Oswalt (who did those awesome Comedy Central scheduling department bumpers together). I was lucky to find all of “The Vacant Lot” and “Exit 57” on YouTube (loved the first one, didn’t care much for the other with a few good laughs here and there), and this is definitely a sketch comedy series I’d love to give a watch.
Damn rare hard to find shows!
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 7, 2024 17:55:20 GMT -5
When all of your MST recording tapes are FINALLY fully digitized with Kolos's wonderful help
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 8, 2024 9:14:34 GMT -5
So admittedly I WAS very eager to see this recording on Kolos’s channel, and it certainly was a BIG dopamine release and felt so nice to end my day with after FINALLY getting all my tapes fully digitized youtu.be/xb6mKOP-dH8?si=YyVJ6xHkG9A3TCYvBut I swear….. I now have come to the conclusion this bot-run, expired cottage cheese foot-smelling milk-aged broken website does NOT like ANYTHING past 720p anymore with its terrible decompression….. seriously, it’s gonna just get to the point EVERYTHING HAS to be uploaded to 4K to even get good results….. guh. With all the hard work Kolos does getting these recordings that are still even lucky to exist AT ALL, it really is a giant middle finger with how YouTube just turns ANYTHING 480p into just grainy and blurry quality uploads. I think at this point I’m just gonna play my personal recordings that are on YouTube as ambient noise to help me sleep cause knowing how well they ACTUALLY look in their fresh QuickTime files, it bugs me to no end.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 8, 2024 9:56:13 GMT -5
If anyone wants to alternatively check out the actual world premiere recording of “Bloodlust!” WITH some Cheap Labor Day bumpers not seen on my recording WITH more people whining “wHy Am I nOt GeTtInG pAiD tO dO tHiS 😡”……. With the consequence of more degraded quality: archive.org/details/MST3K_Bloodlust_Comedy_Central_WOC_1994-09Also, since this Pringles commercial (Jesus Christ did Comedy Central love advertising these chips, not to mention did Pringles love ragging on regular potato chips) is on the recording that Kolos uploaded: youtu.be/DxD6vxHC5OE?si=Yhc0-f6xOIja3uemDoes anyone else get MASSIVE Van Halen/Boston vibes from this song? I sure do.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 9, 2024 18:45:16 GMT -5
And another nostalgic close to premiere season 6 recording I look forward to watching tonight before I go to bed….. in more decompressed YouTube quality! (But definitely one of my favorites none the less). youtu.be/UlB2T16SdyE?si=Tpk7WfDAp0J2h9q0
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 12, 2024 0:36:01 GMT -5
So admittedly with Kolos’s recent uploads of premiere/near premiere season 6 recordings from my tape collection with these particular batch of tapes numbered 28-32, as well as some he plans to post, and ones I’ve additionally posted, in addition to some January 1995 near premieres/reruns that will be split between us (the ones I’ve uploaded I do plan to share in one final batch), I have been watching these on his channel and mine just because these were pretty frequent re-watches back in the single digit years when I was more Mike-leaning (I’m more Joel now), and they definitely make nice bed time episodes to fall asleep to…… but man, the more I just see this….. the more it’s become a meme for me now, much so like the local ads that unfortunately masked over commercials in some uploads.
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Post by BoB3K on Jan 12, 2024 13:06:24 GMT -5
I watch crap on youtube a lot. But then I'm not a huge video guy, the audio is more important to me -- I like to hear the movie and the riffs all nice and clear (and I hate when the riffs are too loud for the movie -- rifftrax did this for awhile and I heard the numst3k s13 was really bad, but I didn't watch any of those except for a few from online that had been audio-corrected by a fan)
Anywoo, what does this decompression do? Are you saying they like pre-decompress a smaller file into the larger size and do it poorly, or they actually upsacale the resolution, and do it poorly? Do you have any screen shots of it doing this?
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 12, 2024 13:14:37 GMT -5
Admittedly I may have mixed up the wording with “compressing” (yeah, it’s a learning-curve for me)….. to keep it simple, basically watching these finalized files in the RAW QuickTime format looks a lot better with the only minor consequence for me being the interlacing but it is something I can honestly live with. It’s a natural consequence with VHS digitizing. I can at least see all the beautiful details in the RAW file.
Whereas with watching it on YouTube, it looks more blurry and pixelated because it just seems like YouTube does not like ANYTHING past 720p anymore and that’s the consequence of a file not being 720p or higher.
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Post by BoB3K on Jan 12, 2024 15:43:18 GMT -5
Hmm.. Could be the viewing part and not the compression part. Like when you watch it in quicktime you are watching it on a smarter player than the youtube video player, which admittedly is probably optimized for modern 720/1080 viewing.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 12, 2024 15:50:33 GMT -5
That’s what I believe is the case. Videos nowadays on YouTube HAVE to be 720 or higher or else you won’t get the best results.
And admittedly I do tend to upscale my stuff in Premiere to 1080p anyway but I’m not a fan of doing that with full episodes that have commercials because it practically takes an entire hour for the full thing to export, and I have multiple episodes I plan to share soon in a finalized batch.
Again I’m not really someone who typically likes playing my personal recording uploads whether on Kolos’s channel or mine, but in the case of the aforementioned recordings I mentioned up above, these were pretty nostalgic ones and they do help me fall asleep with my insomnia as I play them on the TV. It’s just a lousy feeling seeing what YouTube’s terrible compression does to these 480p files.
I can be accepting about other people’s recordings because in the end, they’re not mine and I can’t control how they were originally recorded, but with mine it can be a bit of a drag.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 13, 2024 21:19:05 GMT -5
So I know this promo in particular aired from January to….. July I believe a couple times that can be found in numerous 1994 MST broadcast uploads, and I plan on uploading a higher quality upload of this commercial youtu.be/LXZBM41rfbs?si=NAxqgoFumA6byhbaBut does anyone else just seriously feel this guy’s level of pessimism in the voice over? Yeah, I always cringe a little when the woman with curly hair says “And I don’t eat meat, cause I’m a vetTEnariaaaan 😄😁”…. And I felt the way he delivers that “hellloooooo?” on the other woman chewing gum.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 18, 2024 0:48:19 GMT -5
Okay, since this particular commercial WAS brought up in the recent upload of my 10 AM 3/28/92 airing of “Stranded in Space:” youtu.be/qib_dIfjR_Y?si=r84AUPwz0mNmSY73 I have to be honest, I’ve LOVED this commercial since I was a kid (I remember first seeing on my world premiere recording of “Giant Gila Monster,” I believe); the effects of those baseball cards just ploughing through the Earth’s core really gave that adrenaline rush, and the joke on Australia at the end was pretty humorous as well. youtu.be/ta1A7MJmj8M?si=8B0dGUpBsuZrnkfO
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