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Post by alltheparts on Nov 28, 2005 11:32:50 GMT -5
Watching the Cheap Seats MST3K appearance made me think about this. They mispronounce "ralph macchio." In a lot of episodes they'll mispronounce words like "karaoke" all the time. Is this a running joke or is it a coincidence?
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Post by CBG on Nov 28, 2005 12:49:53 GMT -5
Watching the Cheap Seats MST3K appearance made me think about this. They mispronounce "ralph macchio." In a lot of episodes they'll mispronounce words like "karaoke" all the time. Is this a running joke or is it a coincidence? THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES!!! You have uncovered a conspiracy of global proportions GET YOUR FAMILY TO SAFETY NOW!!... Naw, just regional dialects...(See Opening Segment Exp#611 -Last of the Wild Horses.)
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Post by jjb3k on Nov 28, 2005 15:41:05 GMT -5
Of course, this still doesn't explain why Joel always pronounced "implore" as "abhor".
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Post by ChrisDalek on Nov 28, 2005 15:53:25 GMT -5
Or why they call Stephen Hawking 'Stephen Hawkings'...
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Post by Wild Rebel on Nov 28, 2005 15:54:01 GMT -5
Of course, this still doesn't explain why Joel always pronounced "implore" as "abhor". He was baked...
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Post by Cleolanta on Nov 28, 2005 18:59:03 GMT -5
Well, that one sounds like a case of getting two similar-sounding words that mean different things mixed up with each other. I know people who do that all the time. _I_ occasionally do it. And sometimes they're not even that similar. Heck, for example, just yesterday--in my post defending "Moon Zero Two", I said something about a giant _atmosphere_ made out of sapphire. I of course meant "asteroid"! :P
"Karohkee" is definitely a regional mispronounciation thing, however...another Midwestern one I know is when you occasionally switch around "r" and "n" sounds...I heard an example of that on some MST episode the other day, but now I can't remember what it was. But I can describe what I mean, in general--like, for example, pronouncing "modern" as mah-_drin_. Ever heard the song "Mr. Roboto", by Styx? Listen carefully--he says "I am the modrin man!" instead of "modern". They're from Illinois and my dad is from Iowa, so that's definitely a Midwestern thing. Calling lunchtime "dinner" and "Can you _borrow_ me a (noun here)?" are familiar to me from my Iowa days, as well.
(And speaking of odd pronounciations...Joel occasionally sounds somewhat _Canadian_ on the "out and about" type words, especially back in KTMA/Season One (and his standup days), if you listen. Well, bearing in mind that Minnesota is right up against the border and that borders are just _artificial_ lines anyway...I guess it's not that surprising.)
But yeah, it does bug me occasionally on the show. :P However I can't say much, I'm currently living in a place where they pronounce "measure" as MAYzure and egg as "aig" (they also _switch_ things around the opposite way, such as, instead of "Megan broke her leg", it comes out as "Mehgan broke her laig.") , or tail as "tell" (I know some people who even WRITE it that way!) and "ignorant" as "iggerant", for only a few very irritating examples. I've successfully fought off obtaining this accent for all the years I've lived here, but what accent exactly am I trying to _preserve_? I somehow ended up with a generic "Middle American" newscaster accent, and I have NO idea how. I lived in California and Iowa during my childhood years and sound, really, like _neither_ of them. It's weird.
File this...never mind, take the day off, Larry.
...Notorious
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Post by FredC on Nov 28, 2005 21:20:03 GMT -5
Of course, this still doesn't explain why Joel always pronounced "implore" as "abhor". I never really thought of it as him mispronouncing it, but choosing to say abhor instead, a sort of play on words.
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Post by BCZF on Nov 28, 2005 21:36:50 GMT -5
During "Cave Dwellers" Joel also says "Macabellian" when he meant "Machavellian" when some bad guys on horses rode into town.. But I think most of Joels flubs come from just plain screw ups but were funny enough just to leave in..
And as for the Ralph Macchio thing, I dont think I remember them screwing up his name... The pronouncement of Karaoke as KA-ROW-KEE is hard to explain since around here (Milwaukee) and Chicago any prouncements I've heard (granted weren't many) always pronounce it CARE-E-OH-KEE..
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Post by Nunyerbiz on Nov 28, 2005 23:00:56 GMT -5
The ka-row-kee thing always did bother me... and I was kind of curious if it was just a regional thing or they were butchering the word on purpose. I'm in the Detroit area and it's always been care-e-oh-kee here... of course, you get up to the northern reaches of the state and all kinds of accents and dialects come into play.
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Post by Da Worm Fizzle on Nov 29, 2005 0:33:01 GMT -5
This is a great thread, I've been wondering about the Karioke thing myself forever! Too bad there's no real answer for why the say it that way.
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Post by Jose BxR on Nov 29, 2005 2:12:26 GMT -5
How about when they mention "Kee-noo" Reeves?
So far, I've heard it done right only once, by Frank, at the end of "Hercules Unchained."
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Post by fathermushroom on Nov 29, 2005 15:35:10 GMT -5
Joel always said "abhor" for "implore". I think he just didn't know it was wrong. He also says "lar-nix" when he means "larynx."
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Post by FredC on Nov 29, 2005 16:26:33 GMT -5
Joel always said "abhor" for "implore". I think he just didn't know it was wrong. He also says "lar-nix" when he means "larynx." I still say its a play on words. for example, "I abhor you" means pretty much "I despise you", or "I loathe you". I would think that if he was just saying it wrong SOMEONE there would have corrected him. I mean, whenever you say something wrong, people are quick to correct you.
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Post by CBG on Nov 29, 2005 17:17:01 GMT -5
...especially around here.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Nov 29, 2005 17:44:00 GMT -5
I have MST3K to thank for introducing me to the pronunciation "sammich" for "sandwich."
It seemed like the strangest thing ever. I eventually heard someone else say it that way a few years later, and it appeased my mind....but man. "Sammich." How d'you get that from a word that has an "n" and a "d" in it?
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