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Post by StreetDreamer83 on May 22, 2006 23:06:58 GMT -5
Metropolis. I watched that move in my SciFi class in high school and it freaked me out. It's something I'll never watch again.
Matt
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Post by Detective Mitchell on May 23, 2006 10:12:02 GMT -5
I saw The Haunting when it first came out. When you left the theater, you were jumping at shadows. I also had trouble sleeping that night. Amazing film. Which version of THE HAUNTING are you referring to? The 60's Robert Wise version or the 1999 Gus Van Sant crapfest?
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Post by Bix Dugan on May 23, 2006 18:35:28 GMT -5
..Mr. Goodbar So you're gay, dude! Stop killing women!
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Post by Chuck on May 23, 2006 19:07:48 GMT -5
I saw The Haunting when it first came out. When you left the theater, you were jumping at shadows. I also had trouble sleeping that night. Amazing film. Which version of THE HAUNTING are you referring to? The 60's Robert Wise version or the 1999 Gus Van Sant crapfest? The original, of course! (Lili Taylor said that she was in complete denial during the filming of the dreadful remake. She swears that the finished film was not the script they were given when they signed on.)
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Post by losingmydignity on May 23, 2006 20:14:01 GMT -5
Which version of THE HAUNTING are you referring to? The 60's Robert Wise version or the 1999 Gus Van Sant crapfest? The original, of course! (Lili Taylor said that she was in complete denial during the filming of the dreadful remake. She swears that the finished film was not the script they were given when they signed on.) The 90's remake is a stinker of epic proportions.... The seventies Legend of Hell House remake is weak but interesting.....
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Post by Gorphax on May 23, 2006 20:54:30 GMT -5
Happiness is right up there for me.
Certain sections of Bergman's The Virgin Spring (anybody who's seen it certainly knows which parts I'm talking about) rattled me to the core like no other piece of cinema has.
Though technically it's not a full-length feature, I just have to mention the 6-minute short film called Rubber Johnny. A shape-shifting mutant child in a wheelchair is kept locked in a basement with his dog. Quite possibly THE most disturbing thing I've seen (and this is coming from someone who's seen his fair share of avant-garde cinema).
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Post by losingmydignity on May 23, 2006 21:03:45 GMT -5
Samantha Egger giving birth in Cronenberg's The Brood....I'll say no more.
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Post by Shep on May 25, 2006 6:15:43 GMT -5
Samantha Egger giving birth in Cronenberg's The Brood....I'll say no more. LOL Yes! I love that film. "A Clockwork Orange" deeply disturbed me when I was a kid, but it also made me THINK. "Sleepaway Camp" (the ending).
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Post by Lincolnator on May 25, 2006 10:45:04 GMT -5
Arachnophobia.
I watched one scene from that and changed the channel. I HATE spiders and that scene just about sent me through the roof.
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Post by Detective Mitchell on May 25, 2006 22:03:07 GMT -5
Which scene? There are several that creep me out.
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Post by RafaelH on May 28, 2006 20:04:50 GMT -5
I'm surprised by some of the picks and that none of the ones I thought when I read the title were mentioned.
To me its the Cannibal series. Jungle Holocaust, Cannibal Holocaust and Cannibal Ferox and the movie Salo, 120 days of Sodom. Also Africa Addio.
The Cannibal series are all bad movies about people going to the jungle and being trapped by native cannibals. The worst of them is Cannibal Holocaust. They are pretty bad and stereotypical. The worst things is that in all the films they show graphic animal killings. Real animal killings. In the first one they skin an alligator, in the 2nd one they chop a turtle to pieces, open up a muskrat and cut of the head of a monkey. In the last one they tie up an animal to have him get eaten by a snake. So not only to they paint indians and natives like savages, they show gratitious animal murder. That is just horrible.
Africa Addio is the same but may be even worse because it passes as a documentary when most of the thing were made up. And it paints Africans as thugs. If you want to know about it you should read Ebert review in which he gives it 0 stars and says it racist. They also show a pregnant elephant getting butchered and set up for the movie.
The most disturbing by its theme (but also pretty good movie even if its painful to watch) is Salo. The last Passolini movie, I think. It's about how the leader of the Salo republic, in their final day after the wars, go to a house and torture captured children with the most despicable act just for their pleasure. It just an attack on facism and the worse acts humanity can do. It's just awful. And for effect, Passolini used real teenagers and young men. It's a great movie but one you can only see once in your life. It devastates you.
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Post by Chuck on May 29, 2006 7:55:26 GMT -5
When you watch Salo, you cannot accept what you are seeing. You have to accept what it represents.
The first time I saw it (projected), I left the theater feeling like I had been at a political science lecture.
(I had the same reaction to Romero's Day of the Dead. When the crowd is "disassembling" the army, it made me think of Tenamen (sp?) Square! What if society just disassembled the army and brought it back within itself?)
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Post by RafaelH on May 30, 2006 1:07:56 GMT -5
When you watch Salo, you cannot accept what you are seeing. You have to accept what it represents. The first time I saw it (projected), I left the theater feeling like I had been at a political science lecture. Yeah. Did you accept the symbolism of forcing the kids to eat oranges with nails? Yeah I know that it was a criticism of facism and an intent of showing the awfulness and how its tries to show the atrocities commited time after time and all the symbolism. But it still an awful representation and to just take them symbolically is odd. It's too haunting and I don't really see how someone could ignore the acts. I got to be honest and say that I find your opinion of " feeling like I had been at a political science lecture" weird and kind of disturbing. I don't think it was that symbolical to the point of detachment of all the horrible acts shown.
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Post by RafaelH on May 30, 2006 1:21:33 GMT -5
Salo was junk. Like I said, I hate any film that just says: life sucks. Those Cannibal movies mentioned above represent the kind of film I REALLY hate. Due to the animal torture, I will never see that movie, and I wish nobody else would. Any film that had animals intentionally killed deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth along with the director and producer. I thought Salo was good at trying to show the barbaric acts that were commited during that time and still at. But still it too harsh and so nihilistic. The Roger Ebert (yeah I know you hate him but still ) debate about Chaos and how movies that share what you say and how worthless they are kind of has mee questioning it. It just the most depressing thing. And about the Cannibal movies, they are beyond awful in every sense. Besides the animal killings, the human killings were so gruesome and looked so real that when Cannibal Holocaust came out, Deodato had to go to court to prove they didn't murder people. Yet those movies were awful but maybe Africa Addio is worse since in it they show executions and for one of them the producers paid the executioners so that they would postpone it so that the cameras could arrived and they could tape it. Then again in Cannibal Holocause, because the movie was all about finding some tape by a crew who tried to fake a documentary and endend up eaten by cannibals, they showed some african documentary about executions and said that all those act were faked. Yet apprently they were real executions used and they couldn't even fake that for the movie. And the movie was supposedly an attack on the older Africa Addio. So apparently to criticize a movie, do an even worse, more offensive one. So in conclusion, Ruggero Deodato is scum. He is a coward, who killed animals in his film and then tried to excuse it and said the producer did it without him knowing eventhough the acts were clearly part of the plot like when the crew shots a tied up pig in the head or one of the characters dies by a snake bite and they chop the snake into pieces. If you see a film of Deodato, don't watch it and if you see him, spit in his direction. Thank you.
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Post by RafaelH on May 30, 2006 2:13:11 GMT -5
No. Salo is just pure crap. You can make a movie about sadness, killing and sadism without making it suicide-like depressing. Pasolini is a director I have no respect for. As I said, anyone who creates something that is thoroughly depressing, thoroughly nihilistic, thoroughly "life sucks" has not created art. Art, in my opinion, TRUE art, makes life more endurable and enjoyable. Therefore, I think that gruesome and nihilistic subject matter can be presented without being depressing. Take Paths of Glory. It's a movie that appears to be nihilistic. It's disturbing and frightening and upsetting - but it isn't depressing and it doesn't leave you with the feeling that life is something absolutely horrible. I had the same problem with the film Last House on the Left. What a piece of crap. I could point out a ton of films that I like that are disturbing and dark: A Clockwork Orange, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Goodfellas, The Exorcist, Eraserhead. All of them a disturbing and tackle hard-to-deal-with issues, but they are not depressing, and they are not one-note about "life sucks". I love this about South Park - it's ability to tackle the most horrifying social issues and yet make it funny and even optimistic. Your making Ebert's point, which I agree of but I'm just torned in regards to Salo. I don't think Salo is a masterpiece and I don't think it one of those great films of all time but yet I don't think it falls as bad as exploitation and just pure sadism. I think he tried to make an attack on facism and tried to make it as real as possible. Then again the fact that he directed the act and didn't dealt with the soldiers or the people who commited them, hampers the movie. Still I just don't think its pure crap. I just think its too disturbing and just a bad experience.
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