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Post by hopesfall on Oct 28, 2007 2:52:06 GMT -5
Hopesfall, I think your major beef appears to be that no one shares your taste... No. Like I said, people can listen to anything they like, I just wish they'd make more of an effort to find out about the lesser known bands out there. I also never said that this decade has been bad for music, in fact some of my favorite albums ever have been released within the last 4 or 5 years. What I'm saying is that for the most part, mainstream music has been absolutely abysmal. As for bands from the 2000's being remembered years down the road... I'm sure there will be plenty, just none of the right ones.
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Oct 28, 2007 12:35:48 GMT -5
Hopesfall, I think your major beef appears to be that no one shares your taste... No. Like I said, people can listen to anything they like, I just wish they'd make more of an effort to find out about the lesser known bands out there. I also never said that this decade has been bad for music, in fact some of my favorite albums ever have been released within the last 4 or 5 years. What I'm saying is that for the most part, mainstream music has been absolutely abysmal. As for bands from the 2000's being remembered years down the road... I'm sure there will be plenty, just none of the right ones. Agree with you there! ;D
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Oct 28, 2007 12:37:24 GMT -5
I love electronic music... in fact I haven't really said much about my tastes beyond Muse. For someone to say Muse is boring soft rock... that's ridiculous! I'm fine with other's opinions but... it's a fact, Muse aren't "soft rock." You don't go away from every concert not being able to hear well for two days afterward if it's soft rock. Enough about Muse... Battles are awesome. Ratatat, M83, LCD Soundsystem- all awesome bands. But the point of this thread isn't about sweet assed awesome spectacular bands, but bands that people are gonna look back at and think- oh, that says "2000s" all over it. AKA- Aha screams 80s. Nirvana screams 90s. That sort of thing. That's the problem. No matter how good some of the acts I listed are, I doubt they'll come to define the 2000s.
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Post by Emperor Cupcake on Oct 30, 2007 23:44:57 GMT -5
I love electronic music... in fact I haven't really said much about my tastes beyond Muse. For someone to say Muse is boring soft rock... that's ridiculous! I'm fine with other's opinions but... it's a fact, Muse aren't "soft rock." You don't go away from every concert not being able to hear well for two days afterward if it's soft rock. Enough about Muse... Battles are awesome. Ratatat, M83, LCD Soundsystem- all awesome bands. But the point of this thread isn't about sweet assed awesome spectacular bands, but bands that people are gonna look back at and think- oh, that says "2000s" all over it. AKA- Aha screams 80s. Nirvana screams 90s. That sort of thing. That's the problem. No matter how good some of the acts I listed are, I doubt they'll come to define the 2000s. Yeah, unfortunately stuff has to be kind of well known to really "define" a decade, and most of the time, stuff that's well known isn't very good (notice I said "most of the time"). I haven't listened to commercial radio since 1987, and I stopped watching MTV in the very early 90's, right about the same time that "120 Minutes" starting showing all the same so-called "alternative" bands that were selling millions of albums and getting massive radio play. Way to keep us up on the underground, there, 120. Really the only "new" bands I've really, really liked in the last few years have been fairly under the radar, with the Dresden Dolls probably being the best known. I also adore Cinema Strange and its side project, The Deadfly Ensemble. There's also Bloody Dead and Sexy, a German deathrock band that are quite awesome. Then there's Entertainment, The Opposite Sex, Autonervous, The Brides, and Katzenjammer Kabarett. Plus Frank the Baptist are great, though they might have got together in the late '90s. And now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure Cinema Strange formed in 1994. Oh well. And I'd also mention Grinderman, but I'm not sure that counts because it's Nick Cave's side band and he's been around since the late 70's.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Oct 31, 2007 1:12:50 GMT -5
I actually think that as far as true mainstream culture goes, much of the 2000's will be remembered as having chart topping hip hop and "R&B" crossover stuff. That always makes the top 20s. It may not be the style of the majority of people on this board, but I guarantee that it's rattling in most high schoolers and, increasingly, college-age kids' heads as standard fair. But if Nirvana is the band that screams 90's, why couldn't Kanye West or $.50 (Fitty-cent? hell, I don't know) be the one for this decade?
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Oct 31, 2007 9:55:05 GMT -5
I actually think that as far as true mainstream culture goes, much of the 2000's will be remembered as having chart topping hip hop and "R&B" crossover stuff. That always makes the top 20s. It may not be the style of the majority of people on this board, but I guarantee that it's rattling in most high schoolers and, increasingly, college-age kids' heads as standard fair. But if Nirvana is the band that screams 90's, why couldn't Kanye West or $.50 (Fitty-cent? hell, I don't know) be the one for this decade? It's a very good point. Hip hop/R n B is probably the only thing in the mainstream that isn't either instantly forgettable or just a hopeless rehash of something from the 60's/70's/80's. Over here in Britain we're going through a phase where loads of indie bands chart, much like in the mid-90's with Britpop. Problem is most of the ones that chart are awful, quickly formed to cash-in on the "sound" of the time. The same happened ten years ago until saturation point and people stopped listening to anything with a guitar that wasn't Oasis. All of the bands either sound like the post-punk agit rock of the late 70's/early 80's or Britpop because most of the new audience are already too young to remember the first time a mere decade agao. And of course it was a big rip-off of the 60's. The way things are going the revivals will have to be of specific years instead of decades or sounds. By 2010 I fully expect the british charts to be full of the sounds of 2005.
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Post by Pierre Trudeau on Oct 31, 2007 15:13:48 GMT -5
Good point. Love him or hate him, Justin Timberlake is going to be the Michael Jackson of the 2000s....
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Oct 31, 2007 15:25:51 GMT -5
Good point. Love him or hate him, Justin Timberlake is going to be the Michael Jackson of the 2000s.... Another reason why this decades pop bores me.
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Post by Cerrita on Oct 31, 2007 15:51:56 GMT -5
Good point. Love him or hate him, Justin Timberlake is going to be the Michael Jackson of the 2000s.... Can I go have a good cry now?
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Post by Mr. Atari on Oct 31, 2007 18:03:12 GMT -5
In addition to the hip-hop craze, there's also the inexplicable popularity of what Mrs. Atari calls Corporate Country. You know, Carrie Underwood, Rascal Flatts, Toby Keith, and about 20 other artists I'm ashamed I've heard of.
When I think of famous music in this decade, I think of the American Idol-type crap coming out of Nashville. Even guys like Bon Jovi and Robert Plant are putting out country pop. Or should I say country poop? Hahahaha...no. No, I shouldn't.
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Post by Pierre Trudeau on Oct 31, 2007 23:03:50 GMT -5
^---- SPEAKING of country music in the 00s... 1. It's hilarious that the popular country of today is typical pop with some slide guitar and twang thrown in but then, Johnny Cash is also popular at the same time. 2. Best twist on country right now- Ryan Adams. , Even the popular hip hop out there sucks. If you're not deeply into music right now, you'll miss the intelligent, interesting, not about doing hos and blowing coke and whatever else hip hop. Like Aesop Rock...
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Post by SOL Stowaway on Nov 1, 2007 16:48:01 GMT -5
HopesFall, no disrespect, but Muse is not Soft Rock. If by that you meant "Pop Rock", then I do somewhat see your point...but even that's a bit of a stretch, IMO. To me, The Rocket Summer is a good example of Pop Rock, while artists like Bread come to mind when I think of Soft Rock.
I love discovering/being introduced to non-mainstream artists. Although, that doesn't happen to me very often with modern artists since I listen to mostly 60s-80s music.
Greenday? Ugh, no comment. I don't want to be disrespectful to any of their fans around here. I just...don't like any of their songs.
Timberlake? He seems like a nice guy. His music? No comment.
I think it's very possible that the 21st century will have a revolution in music...along the lines of the 1960s. It just...doesn't seem to be around the corner.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Nov 1, 2007 16:58:43 GMT -5
, Even the popular hip hop out there sucks. Well that would be my opinion, but I'm not of the hip hop generation. In fact I'm too hip to hop.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Nov 1, 2007 17:19:29 GMT -5
, Even the popular hip hop out there sucks. Well that would be my opinion, but I'm not of the hip hop generation. In fact I'm too hip to hop. I thought it was that your artificial hip won't allow for any more hopping...
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Nov 1, 2007 18:14:29 GMT -5
I thought it was that your artificial hip won't allow for any more hopping... No, more likely your artificial reasoning is faulty.
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