Santa & The Ice Cream Bunny

[hugo]

Only tangentially related to Cinematic Titanic, but as there was quite a bit of speculation about it possibly being riffed, I thought this would be appropriate here. Anyway, after seeing all the discussion, I figured I'd mention that there is an excerpt of the movie posted here:www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKEGAbkpyo (in fact, at 10 minutes long, I believe it represents fully 1/3rd of the "Santa" footage in the film.)

After viewing this, I'll have to rethink my rankings of "best and worst movie directors." The new continuum should look something like this:

1. Martin Scorcese
2. Alfred Hitchcock
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99. Ed Wood
100. Coleman Francis
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18,028. A drunk babboon
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(insert 28 feet of space here)
5,798,620,212. Whoever directed 'Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny"

[Crowfan]

The whole movie is truly an experience. Thanks to Dr. Z, I have a copy. It's a fine example that certain people should not be allowed anywhere around cameras or people, for that matter.

[Broadsword]

This article about the film from the agony booth is hilarious. www.agonybooth.com/santa_bunny/

[Captain Hygiene]

Like I said in the other thread, I'm pretty sure it's the most inept ("worst") I've ever seen. However, I enjoy it because it's more watchable than some of the other terrible film on MST3k. It would be a great choice.

[FredC]

That was very surreal video. Felt almost Lynchian, though his stuff makes more sense. Ice Cream Bunny? Yeah, of course, I remember him from all the stories... wait, no, I don't.

And the dog chasing the truck? Brilliant.

Cinematic Titanic needs to do this next year. NEEDS to.

[doctorz]

I would be ecstatic if they did this for a Holiday outing next year. I'm pretty sure I was the one who introduced Mary Jo Phel to this cinematic gem last June at the Denver Meet-Up. She even wrote me an email damning me (in a nice way) for scouring her soul with it. If they did this I would be, in a small way, directly responsible for one of their shows. What more could a Mistie ask for?

[BoB3K]

I'll take this opportunity to thrust my opinion on you poor souls--I really don't like to watch trash. When I watch a movie being riffed, I still want it to me a movie--you know, with a plot even if it's thin or contrived or not quite all there; and some actors who can at least speak most of their lines and are at least trying in earnest to act; and a director who at least knows how to point a camera and film stuff even if his idea of blocking is that everyone puts their leg up on whatever prop is in front of them.

The perfect example is Roger Coreman. His movies range from mediocre to laughable silly, but they're still movies with plots and dialogs and props.

And Bert I Gordon is another example--I think his movies are actually pretty good, just old and cheesy and low-budget.

Just my 2 cents.


P.S. I haven't actually seen S&TICB, but from what I've read here, I don't want to--sure I'd watch a minute or two to laugh and go "yeah, that's terrible!" but I don't want to sit through the whole thing, riffs or no.

[GoldenTriangle]

bob3k said:

I'll take this opportunity to thrust my opinion on you poor souls--I really don't like to watch trash. When I watch a movie being riffed, I still want it to me a movie--you know, with a plot even if it's thin or contrived or not quite all there; and some actors who can at least speak most of their lines and are at least trying in earnest to act; and a director who at least knows how to point a camera and film stuff even if his idea of blocking is that everyone puts their leg up on whatever prop is in front of them.

The perfect example is Roger Coreman. His movies range from mediocre to laughable silly, but they're still movies with plots and dialogs and props.

And Bert I Gordon is another example--I think his movies are actually pretty good, just old and cheesy and low-budget.

Just my 2 cents.


P.S. I haven't actually seen S&TICB, but from what I've read here, I don't want to--sure I'd watch a minute or two to laugh and go "yeah, that's terrible!" but I don't want to sit through the whole thing, riffs or no.

I tend to agree with you here, Bob3k.

When the movie is as bad as S&TICB seems to be, it's up to the riffers to carry the WHOLE experience and make the program entertaining. Manos almost suffered from this effect, in my opinion. Thank goodness for some of the tightest and funniest riffing from the entirety the Joel era.

[Bix Dugan]

Eleven pages?
It has to take longer to read that than it would to watch the movie, eh?
I read that Agony Booth write-up a while back, but the pics in it reveal a special
little Hell. Riffable? The world may never know...

[Poe33]

LMAO Hugo!!!

[doctorz]

I'm not one to argue, but I believe there is something like so bad it's good. Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny, for me, is one of those films. For me its like watching a pure uncensored insight into the sub-conscience of the producer. It's horrifying, yet you can't look away. They actually thought that kids would be entertained by this. Somebody wrote a script, approved it and they shot this film with the expectation it would make money. They thought enough people would pay to see it that it got released to theaters. What was in their minds? That is what I want to know and why I find it fascinating. Not very many films make this cut. They are very rare. I would argue Manos, The Hands of Fate is in the same class as SATICB. One single producer desperate to get his vision up on the screen whatever the cost and lack of talent be damned. The vast majority of films that are bad are terrible and unwatchable. Just sorry exercises in atrotious craftsmanship. I also believe that to try and make a bad film doesn't work either. Then it's just a bad joke told over and over (Hobgoblins)and is punishment, not entertainment.

[BoB3K]

doctorz said:

I'm not one to argue, but I believe there is something like so bad it's good. ...

I actually completely agree with you DrZ. My only point was that I prefer not to have those kinds of movies be the subjects on my riffing shows. Or at least very (VERY) sparingly.

[Cerrita]

bob3k said:

sure I'd watch a minute or two to laugh and go "yeah, that's terrible!" but I don't want to sit through the whole thing, riffs or no.

You can't watch just a minute or two- it reaches right through your eye sockets and down into the deepest recesses of your soul, and it entangles itself like some kind of fungus into the very essence of your being; where it remains for the rest of your days like the devil-spawn it is.

Thanks to Doc, those of us at Denver will never be clean again. There might be no Heaven for us based solely on our association with this movie.

That said, I'd love to see it riffed beyond measure.

[hopesfall]

There's such a thing as "so bad it's good" and "so bad it makes me want to kill myself."

Santa And The Ice Cream Bunny falls into the latter category.