The intro is getting better all the time. Keep up the good work. Loved the head shots when you guys were speaking.
Good jokes. The new material was worth the purchase but...
SCCTM is my all time favorite MST3K episode and it was hard to let that go while watching the new Riffs. As a result I now think that CT shouldn't revisit movies already done during the MST3K era. I think it was telling that before the recent CT live show of this movie Joel admonished the audience to "not shout out Riffs from the old show because that would "mess" them up." Please guys and gal, don't do this again. You're messing with my memories.
Its by far the best Cinematic Titanic episode even if its not exactly new bad movie ground they're covering. The riffing was MST3K quality. Maybe its because they'd all seen it a million times before? I know I have. The movie is fun for a bad flick and not a drag like so many other CT choices. Which I think lends greatly to what jokes can be made and how much tolerance I have to putting up with looking at the movie while waiting for another riff.
My observations. I noticed only one host segment and the absence of the Christmas CT theme from the trailer. I also noticed the CTers laughing at each other's riffs this time out. Maybe the gang started to realize that the show felt like they were reading from the script a little too closely. I know I noticed it. More political jokes as well, but since I'm on the same side of the political spectrum as they are it didn't bother me. I know if I was doing this stuff I couldn't avoid political jokes either as it is simply too big a resource.
That "Happy national point a gun at a kid day." line was one of the only riffs I really didn't like and since it existed in the trailer, I was prepared for it.
Since we now have a direct comparison, I can now safely say CT while being really good, isn't as good as MST3K. Mostly due to lack of any real host segments. Sure one existed in this, but it doesn't even come close to what these guys did back in 1991. There is only so much you can get out of a show that's entirely in silhouette as well. Like how movies are all color now instead of black and white, or video games are primarly 3D now. More is more and MST3K was more.
I thought it was a little strange that CT is advertising who's doing the "Thank you" note this time in the email.
Yeah, I kind of felt like they were talking directly to me. "Hey BoB, we know you don't want to watch another riffing of SCCTM, but if you skip this one you won't get JOEL's signature." It gave me a sinking feeling.
I thought it was hilarious but I have to admit that I was suffering from “Riff Back Syndrome” where I kept hearing the old riffs in my head at the same time as the new ones played on the TV. The fact that I couldn’t help but compare the new version against the old didn’t help either and it made it hard for me to really get into it.
With the negative stuff out of the way, it’s now pretty apparent that the CT crew is getting better and better at riffing and in this episode they come at you a hundred miles an hour. I noticed a lot more pop culture references in this one also compared to the others. The jokes are tight, well paced and the crew seems a bit looser than before which was also an improvement.
I love how the opening segments are shaping up (Frank always seems to get the best lines) and Trace taking off and booking down the hallway only to be dragged back kicking and screaming when he found out what movie it was going to be was classic.
So in summery – Another great episode, the CT cast which is already funny keeps getting better, riffs starting to feel less scripted and I probably would have enjoyed the episode a lot more if I wasn’t already so familiar with the MST version of it.
It was a bold experiment but I’m really looking forward to future episodes utilizing movies that they haven’t already done before, or at least movies that weren’t so iconic like SCCTM. My rating - Three out of five franks.
Post by quinnmartin on Nov 25, 2008 17:14:20 GMT -5
Between not wanting to miss out on the Joel card, and all these good reviews, I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order this thing. At the very least, it's great to hear about the improvements over the last batch of episodes. So cool to get in on something at the beginning and get to watch it continually improve.
Sometime's a guy's gotta ride the bull, am I right? Later, skater.
Post by Queen Shadowrama on Nov 28, 2008 18:18:32 GMT -5
I was sooo happy to finally get mine in the mail today. Watched it, loved it! I definitely think this is the best CT yet, and I really think it's funnier than the MST3K version. I could never get into the original version (with the exception of the host segs), so I was really pleased that I was laughing through CT's version nonstop!
And I actually thought their single host segment was really good too. I do wish they'd do at least two of them though - I think that's a good balance. I really liked their fancy new credit photos as well.
The premise is getting cooler too. The Titans have been rather lax about being held captive up to this point, so in future episodes I hope that they start to resist a little more. Trace had the right idea in this one.
Post by Mighty Jack on Nov 29, 2008 5:24:04 GMT -5
I agree the skit was funny. I like how Joel answers Mary Jo's question on how he managed to get her gift.
I watched it again tonight. There are a lot of quality quips that kept me laughing throughout. I should have written them down, but I do remember when the evil martian is attempting to kill Santa and the kids, Josh has Saint Nic say, "I'll call Jesus, he owes me a solid" Ha, Ha, Ha
"I'm not a man who approves of definitions. Labels belong on luggage as far as I'm concerned; they don't mean anything in art" - Fellini
Post by Melting Man on Nov 29, 2008 14:02:56 GMT -5
Wow, this episode was really, really good. The jokes came fast and were consistently funny. I've never seen the original MST version, so I have no point of comparison, but, as a stand alone effort, I have no complaints.
I still like (the Dropo-free) Wasp Woman a little more.
"It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it." - H. L. Mencken
Hey, can anyone tell me the 'blue factor' in this CT offering?
My 13 and 10 year old LOVE the MST version, and before I subject them...any caveats?
I've only gotten a chance to watch through it once, but I don't recall anything particularly blue. Frank yells bastard at one point (though you can see that in the trailer), and they might have used sh*t at some point, but I don't recall any overt sexual content either. No "masturbation journal" stuff, if you will. That probably has a lot to do with the fact that the movie is a kids film, while all the other films have been icky with incest, attempted rape, ect.
I obviously wasn't viewing it thinking about if it was suitable for children or not, but I think it's safe for both kids. Definitely okay for the 13 year old.