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Post by Ford Prefect on Jan 14, 2009 8:37:30 GMT -5
Since the first Rifftrax came out in the month of July, I think the Rifftrax calendar should go from July to June. So we're really in the middle of Rifftrax: Year Three.
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Post by docsteve on Jan 14, 2009 10:15:53 GMT -5
I'd never really looked at the Rifftrax separated by year till now, and I kind of wish I hadn't. While I like some of the 2008s okay, I'm not even sure I could pick 3 favorites from them. When I look at 2007 I'd have trouble narrowing it down to 10 favorites. Quoted for truth. If you really want a shock, compare 2006 to 2008, especially when you consider it wasn't a full 12 months of releases. I've been saying this for over a month now. Too many releases over too short a period of time = Repetitive and unfunny. They are in a rut so deep that they can't even seem to see out of it anymore.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Jan 14, 2009 10:45:47 GMT -5
Has anyone tallied the rate of releases Rifftrax is making to compare with the number of episodes in one of the "full" MST seasons? I'm curious if the RT crew really is writing more than they did on the show. Of course there's other variables, including the length of the films and the number of writers, but I'm just curious as a rough comparison.
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Post by Skyroniter on Jan 14, 2009 11:19:03 GMT -5
gammer or MJ might have the trax laid out on their stes. I used this one www.highprogrammer.com/rifftrax/ as a quick reference but apparently he got tired of keeping it going.
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Post by docsteve on Jan 14, 2009 11:42:44 GMT -5
Has anyone tallied the rate of releases Rifftrax is making to compare with the number of episodes in one of the "full" MST seasons? I'm curious if the RT crew really is writing more than they did on the show. Of course there's other variables, including the length of the films and the number of writers, but I'm just curious as a rough comparison. I am assuming that the writing staff is less than half that of MST3K Seasons 8-10, based on the number of people that have received (and/or have claimed to have received) credits to date. Counting the Rifftrax and the Shorts (but not iRffs or Rifftrax Presents), 2008 was heavier than any single MST3K season in terms of sheer hours riffed. The actual movie count (24) in of itself ties the longest MST3K seasons, and some of these films are FAR longer than 97 minutes.
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Post by Skyroniter on Jan 14, 2009 13:27:59 GMT -5
Somewhere I read that they split up each rifftrax amongst the riffers and usually make just one pass through it.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Jan 14, 2009 13:46:37 GMT -5
Counting the Rifftrax and the Shorts (but not iRffs or Rifftrax Presents), 2008 was heavier than any single MST3K season in terms of sheer hours riffed. The actual movie count (24) in of itself ties the longest MST3K seasons, and some of these films are FAR longer than 97 minutes. Very interesting. That's exactly what I was wondering, whether they were actually releasing more commentaries, or if it just seemed like it. Of course, there's a lot of other stuff that goes into writing a show, but seeing as they're really cranking out that many commentaries, no wonder they're putting out some lesser material.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Jan 15, 2009 0:22:48 GMT -5
Ford, I go by real years, not riff years. lol But yeah I get your point. I still give them props, how many comedies in any field write as many jokes for a single product as these guys do? I always gave MST leeway on repetes because of that, but it does seem to be happening a lot not just in actual lines but in overall tone (you know when they are going to level in with a sex joke for example) it's getting predictable.... and that's whats sad, I'm not being surprised as much. Don't want to slam them because they've taken on a Herculean task but they need a break. Even the best entertainers flouder under similar situations (hence the "Beatles For Sale" Lp)
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Post by BoB3K on Jan 15, 2009 14:13:12 GMT -5
Counting the Rifftrax and the Shorts (but not iRffs or Rifftrax Presents), 2008 was heavier than any single MST3K season in terms of sheer hours riffed. The actual movie count (24) in of itself ties the longest MST3K seasons, and some of these films are FAR longer than 97 minutes. Yeah, but there's also no skits to write and songs to compose, make-up to put on, etc. So, I would contend that this year was still probably shy of a full up 24 ep season of MST3K.
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Post by callipygias on Jan 15, 2009 14:58:56 GMT -5
Plus 10 Rifftrax Presents and over 20 shorts.
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Post by docsteve on Jan 15, 2009 22:56:18 GMT -5
Counting the Rifftrax and the Shorts (but not iRffs or Rifftrax Presents), 2008 was heavier than any single MST3K season in terms of sheer hours riffed. The actual movie count (24) in of itself ties the longest MST3K seasons, and some of these films are FAR longer than 97 minutes. Yeah, but there's also no skits to write and songs to compose, make-up to put on, etc. So, I would contend that this year was still probably shy of a full up 24 ep season of MST3K. No way, no how. As callipygias points out, I didn't even count the Rifftrax Presents and the shorts (most of which are also longer than a typical MST3K short). More importantly, time spent on line production isn't really relevant. It's not like MST3K ever had a 90 minute episode because they sepnt too much time on character make-up that week! The issue is whether or not the riffing is becoming stale due to too much product. Rifftrax is now the General Motors of riffing. They are largely in competition with themselves! Even GM eventually figured out that they needed to cut the Oldsmobile line.... Some significant running times: 1. Batman and Robin = 125 min. (Written by the fans, however.) 2. Jurassic Park = 127 min. 3. Matrix Reloaded = 138 min. 4. Beowulf = 114min. 5. Spideman 3 = 139 min. 6. I Am Legend = 101 min. 7. Two Towers = 179 min. 8. The Sixth Sense = 107 min. 9. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets = 161 min. 10. Memento = 113 min. 11. Oceans 11 = 116 min. 12. Pirates of the Caribbean = 143 min. 13. Iron Man = 126 min. 14. Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull = 122 min. 15. X2: X-Men United = 133 min. 16. The Dark Knight = 152 min. 17. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban = 141 min. 18. Star Wars = 123 min. Still think they were "probably shy" of a full season of MST3K?
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Post by hugo on Jan 21, 2009 14:47:18 GMT -5
On the other hand, a season of television does not last an entire year, so the workload would be more concentrated, for better or worse.
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Post by torgospizza on Jan 28, 2009 14:11:10 GMT -5
... Too bad we won't see anything like this again. Except for these: www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/reefer-madness-three-riffer-editionwww.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/little-shop-horrors-three-riffer-editionAnd more on the way. Somewhere I read that they split up each rifftrax amongst the riffers and usually make just one pass through it. Well, that's not really true. Mike has said pretty much in every interview it can take 7-10 days to produce one of these. The work is divided among 3-4 people, sometimes more. Also, keep in mind that only one of those days is used for the actual recording process, which often includes rewrites on that day (or the day before, during rehearsal). Just wanted to clear that up
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Post by Zombiejesus on Jan 30, 2009 6:26:24 GMT -5
Oh, okay, I see how it works now. Rifftrax will never riff Red Dawn. Never.
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