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Post by Torgo on Apr 14, 2010 23:21:33 GMT -5
That was a pretty good episode last night. I'm confused why Hugo is called Hugo and Hurley, though. Can anyone explain, or does it matter? Hugo is his real name. Hurley is just a nickname. My reaction to last night's episode: Yay Libby! I thought it was cute that Hurley and Libby finally got their picnic on the beach. That put a smile on my face. Other than that, good episode. Not one of the season's highlights for me, but I like Hurley eps, and this was no different. Though, I told my girlfriend last night that if Locke gets up and starts walking after Desmond mowed him over, this would be the best episode ever. Didn't happen though. I guess it was probably for the best, just thought it would be a neat end twist.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Apr 15, 2010 11:25:25 GMT -5
I believe Hugo has mentioned in passing that he won't explain the nickname, although I think that was just a quick gag by the writers.
I liked the episode quite a bit, and it was particularly interesting as the first episode after the big reveal last week about the alternate timeline. I found it interesting that the center of this episode's storyline was Hugo and Libby's lost relationship, and that it managed to be meaningful when Libby has barely been mentioned for ages, and I thought the glimpses of how things were "supposed" to be were handled extremely well. I liked how Desmond wandered around, in and out of the storyline - I get a sense of what he's doing bring people together, but I'm still waiting to hear the entire story. I’m still not sure just how much he knows of both timelines, whether he got a quick glimpse, saw the entire series of events, or has knowledge of both simultaneously. Desmond’s zoned-out interactions with “Locke” and the episode’s ending (a complete classic LOST! moment) just made that even more confusing.
I'd been working my way through the series recently, and just got to Arzt's big moment in the S1 finale on Monday, and I burst out laughing at what happened to Ilana. I know, I'm cruel, I was actually disappointed to see her go, but that scene just came out of nowhere and the shock made me laugh.
We also got a concrete revelation, explaining the mysterious whispers. I was actually shocked to find something on the show was exactly what I'd thought it was, and I found it funny how the revelation was almost tossed out as an aside by Hurley. Michael's cameo and explanation of the voices was done very well, however.
I'm not quite sure whether I'd have sided with Hurley or Richard on the Island. Without having a more concrete explanation about "Locke" or the candidates, I think I'd be inclined to go with Richard and do all I could to destroy the way off the island.
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Post by Torgo on Apr 15, 2010 20:18:42 GMT -5
I believe Hugo has mentioned in passing that he won't explain the nickname, although I think that was just a quick gag by the writers. Huh. I thought it was explained. I thought it had something to do with a story about him throwing up. I don't remember the details. Or maybe my head just made it up when it was trying to fill the Lost holes up like mad.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Apr 15, 2010 20:19:41 GMT -5
I believe Hugo has mentioned in passing that he won't explain the nickname, although I think that was just a quick gag by the writers. Huh. I thought it was explained. I thought it had something to do with a story about him throwing up. I don't remember the details. Or maybe my head just made it up when it was trying to fill the Lost holes up like mad. That could very well be, my mind is like a sieve, which is why I'm finally rewatching the series.
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Post by mccloud on Apr 27, 2010 20:45:47 GMT -5
Tonight's episode is a repeat?!
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Post by Mod City on Apr 28, 2010 11:58:32 GMT -5
Yeah, but at least it was an interesting Richard episode. Still, my understanding was they were going to go straight through with no breaks. I also hear they're doing the series finale on a Sunday night, of all times. I do not like that, but whatever, nobody asked me I was a little surprised by how much not having a new episode on threw me off, though. I shouldn't get too used to having new episodes, though, since there aren't a whole lot of episodes left. A friend of mine commented that the show hasn't appeared to really make any kind of progress the last few episodes. I have to say that's hard to argue against. It feels like we're in the exact same spot we were when Ben was digging his own grave. Frank hasn't done anything but deliver amusing lines and we don't appear to be any closer to a merger of the two worlds. And Illana died for the sake of, well, a Leslie callback. I'm not saying it isn't interesting, it just isn't moving anything anywhere.
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Post by Torgo on Apr 29, 2010 10:31:34 GMT -5
I more or less look at the last few episodes as the chess pieces being set up. Everywhere a character finds themselves seems like it's going to have some sort of purpose in the episodes to come or even the finale alone.
That alone is progress enough for me. Especially if they can pay it off.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Apr 29, 2010 11:35:16 GMT -5
I more or less look at the last few episodes as the chess pieces being set up. Everywhere a character finds themselves seems like it's going to have some sort of purpose in the episodes to come or even the finale alone. That alone is progress enough for me. Especially if they can pay it off. Exactly, in the big picture, there hasn't been a whole lot of progress, but everything that's happened has felt like it's building to something incredible, and for that reason I've enjoyed the "chess piece" episodes. Particularly, the convergence of characters in the alternate timeline last week, I loved every minute of it.
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Post by Mod City on May 5, 2010 12:04:26 GMT -5
And the deaths are beginning to mount. Not a bad episode again, but my favorite part was definitely the flash-sideways with Locke and Jack. But first, a few points.
• Sun and Jin. I did find their final moments very moving, but the death scene was a little reminiscent of Charlie drowning in Through The Looking Glass. I'm glad Jin stayed, though.
• Sayid, well, I just don't know what to think about that. Some viewers thought he needed redemption and felt his self-sacrifice was him getting some of that. I don't know, I thought the Sayid character was more interesting than that and didn't necessarily think he needed redemption. Of course, his death took place off screen, so it's possible, though not likely, he's alive.
• And then there's Frank. Honestly, if that's how they're going to off him after dragging him around the island for the past two seaons, I'm going to be a little miffed. Again, he didn't die on screen, so maybe he wormed his way out of the sub, but it's kind of a similar case to Ilana. I mean, really? Just for the shock value? The show, at its best, was better than that.
• No Desmond, Miles or Ben this episode. I'm kind of surprised Ben has been in the background as much as he has this season, but the show has focused on the original survivors more and more. That's fine with me.
• How cool was Bernard this week? I heard that Cuse and Lindelof have said in a podcast that they believe Rose and Bernard have been "awake" in the alternate timeline since LA X. They both did seem to know more than they were letting on.
• Jack and Locke in the sideways timeline is riveting. The look on Locke's face when Jack says, " I wish you believed me," which is very similar to what Locke wrote on his suicide note to Jack in the real world. I was really hoping John would take him up on it. Anyway, good stuff by both actors.
Half-baked theory time. At the end of the second season, Desmond is preparing to turn the failsafe key at The Swan. He realizes, and then tells Locke, that Locke "saved my life, so that I could save yours." As he disappears below the station, he gives us his classic line: "I'll see you in another life, brother."
Something tells me we're going to hear that line one more time before the end of the series - and I'm guessing it will be to Locke in the sideways timeline. Again, just mumbling ideas here.
It's not quite what I expected this season, but I'm going to miss this show.
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Post by angilasman on May 5, 2010 13:11:30 GMT -5
I think alternate timeline Jack is becoming my favorite character on the show. He's such a great guy!
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Post by angilasman on May 5, 2010 16:15:50 GMT -5
Oh, and my theory: the "sideways world" is the real one, and our world is now a tangant "bubble" of a reality, like a pus-filled sore on the side of the real one, being kept going through unnatural means and in danger of collapsing itself and maybe taking both realities with it.
All the people in our reality are shadows of the real people in the sideways world.
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Post by Mr. Atari on May 5, 2010 18:56:41 GMT -5
I still think the sideways world consists of the epilogues of the characters. Somehow, though, they retain the collective experience of the island, so it's not a total cop-out of 6 years of narrative.
As for last night, I liked how the dialogue and story mirrored earlier stuff in the show. Like sideways Jack & Locke's dialogue. Or the cages. Or Locke blowing up a sub.
I liked how Sayid went out a hero. It was a nice reverse "suicide bombing", a cool inversion of the Iraqi stereotype (such inversion was what made Sayid great in the early seasons), and a fulfilling redemption for him.
I don't mind that everyone died, but it really bugged me how they offed Jin & Sun. Halfway through the scene, I turned to Mrs. Atari and said, "I wonder if Sun's heart will go on." I wanted to be moved by a romantic death scene, but I kept thinking about stupid Jack & Rose (and not the Jack & Rose from LOST). And it did feel kind of lame to make Lapidus wander around the island for 2 seasons doing nothing, just to kill him like that.
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Post by El Santo on May 5, 2010 20:13:49 GMT -5
The deaths were saddening but not too much of a shock, given how easily Lost has killed off major characters over the years. I have a feeling that all of the Losties will be dead by the end of the series finale, with the possible exception of Jack. They will all live on in the alternate timeline, however.
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Post by Mr. Atari on May 11, 2010 22:44:16 GMT -5
Okay, so two of my favorite shows are LOST and The Adventures of Brisco County. If you've never seen the latter, you need to do yourself a favor and go buy the DVDs. Don't think twice about it, don't debate about spending the money, just do it.
Now to my point:
In Brisco, the pilot episode had a game of dynamite chicken between Brisco and Bowler, while a very nervous Socrates Poole looked on. This scene was recreated beat for beat between Jack, Richard Alpert, and Hurley in the Black Rock earlier this season on LOST.
In Brisco, there was an episode featuring an ominous bounty hunter who couldn't speak, but was accompanied by a diminutive, bespectacled nerd who spoke for him. This setup was recreated beat for beat with Dogen and Lennon in the temple earlier this season on LOST.
In Brisco, the mystery of the entire series centered around a supernatural, glowing orb that was discovered in the mines of Northern California. No one knew what it was, or where it's power came from, but it could resurrect people (Brisco), heal gunshot wounds, and make evil people (John Bly) infinitely more evil. As soon as I saw the river tunnel at "the heart of the island" tonight on LOST, I said to Mrs. Atari, "THE ORB'S IN THERE!"
Here's the kicker: The creator, show-runner, and executive producer of Brisco County? Carlton Cuse.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on May 12, 2010 8:27:43 GMT -5
Haha, I knew of that show and the connection to Cuse, but I had no idea what it was about. I'll have to check that out.
Last night's episode was a bit mixed for me. The story was there, but I just didn't like the acting in the first section. The kids playing young Jacob and his brother weren't great, and I really didn't like the actress playing their adoptive mother too much. Things got somewhat better for the second section, where Jacob and his brother were older, but it still didn't seem on the same level as most of the more typical episodes.
Again, I liked the story a lot, it just wasn't pulled off as well as I'd hoped. It also felt a bit rushed, like we saw a lot of things happen, but didn't get a real sense of why they happened. I know that mystery is the essence of Lost, but I was still secretly hoping for a bit more at this point. For example, we finally saw the creation of the smoke monster, but it is still almost as big of an unknown as it used to be - it really just came down to "something happened".
I really liked the revelation about the "Adam and Eve" skeletons, though. I'd never guessed who they'd actually be related to, as the female skeleton had thrown me off track. I wonder if this will be just a reference, or if it'll have some bearing on the resolution of the plot.
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