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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 14:51:48 GMT -5
3 was all about Japanese stuff and lots of supervillains for global domination, a very travelling season.
4 was the backwoods type creature features and old timey fantasies... prepare to either a)wear straw hats or b)wear tunics
5 was the fast times of teenybopping and super spies, too cool for school!
6 was hardhitting reality, cold war, crime, cement blocks and zillions of shorts on pure reality.
8 came back to the creature features sorta like 4.
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Post by Bix Dugan on Sept 27, 2010 15:46:57 GMT -5
I really like Season 8. I an put in just about any title and have a good time.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Sept 27, 2010 16:01:33 GMT -5
Hmmm...
I honestly can't choose between Season 4 and Season 8. I guess that puts me in the "Creature Feature" camp, at least.
I'll vote for Season 8 because I'm a fan of the Space Opera host segments.
*Ignite flame war in 5...4...3...*
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Post by mrmeadows on Sept 27, 2010 18:14:47 GMT -5
5 has many of my all-time favorites, and we get the best of both worlds with Joel and Mike.
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Post by Justin T on Sept 27, 2010 18:22:58 GMT -5
5 has many of my all-time favorites, and we get the best of both worlds with Joel and Mike. I'm with mrmeadows, Season 5 gets my vote. Several of my all time favorite episodes come from Season 5 too, plus having Joel and Mike is a plus. Season 8 is a very close second, the second half of that season is loaded with episodes I love dearly. |
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 27, 2010 18:49:51 GMT -5
It's a tie between seasons 5 and 8, 5 because it has the best of Joel, and Mike comes in generally strong (plus "Santa Claus" is my all-time favorite episode, with "Mitchell" not far behind). Season 8 is just so consistently fun, though, it's hard to turn it down. I usually pick it just to piss off the old-timers.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Sept 27, 2010 19:06:52 GMT -5
It's been a while since I made this point around here, so here it is again (apologies to the old guard).
For someone like me, who watched the eps when they originally aired, season 4 is the best, without question. The group had found their groove, the writing was at its tightest, it included the right mix of off-the-wall crazy with laconic esoterica, and it was the last season before all of the personnel changes hit. Later seasons (6-10) were missing a lot of the charm and randomness. Can you imagine the "who's Merritt Stone?" or the "throwing singers from the lighthouse" or "what would you do with an hour in Chicago?" host segments in season 6 or 8? Not a chance.
Season 3 was good, but the high Sandy Frank quotient makes it lose some points. The show picked up momentum, but it was more of a setup for the greatness of season 4.
Season 5 was good, at times great, but the first few Mike episodes were spotty. Understandably, the transition took a while to get used to, but it takes down the overall score.
Finally, for all of you season 8 voters...I like Bill, I like Mary Jo and I like season 8, but Trace & Frank are a required component of anything considered "greatest" MST. Period. No Trace, no vote.
All of the seasons are great, but when I think of prototypical MST, I think of season 4.
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Post by fathermushroom on Sept 27, 2010 20:09:51 GMT -5
I totally, TOTALLY get where Mr. Atari is going with this. And he's right on the money.
But forced to choose, I vote Season 8.
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Post by notundercovercop32 on Sept 27, 2010 20:12:13 GMT -5
Got to go with 8 if for nothing else I was a Teenage Werewolf.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Sept 27, 2010 20:54:18 GMT -5
Since so many of you are voting season 8, I'd love to see a defense of the view that...
a) A full season of Bill as Crow is better than a whole season of Trace as Crow
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b) A full season of Pearl, Brain Guy, and Bobo is better than a full season of Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank.
Go.
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Post by Mod City on Sept 27, 2010 21:32:03 GMT -5
Since so many of you are voting season 8, I'd love to see a defense of the view that... a) A full season of Bill as Crow is better than a whole season of Trace as Crow and b) A full season of Pearl, Brain Guy, and Bobo is better than a full season of Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank. Go. When you think about it in terms of a full season, yeah, the Trace and Frank years are hard to argue against. There are single episodes and even stretches of episodes where that may not be the case, however. But to each their own. I don't have to worry about it, though, because I voted for season 3  I agree four was sharper, but I like the fact season 3 seems to have a little more grain. It's a little rougher around the edges, but it still has most of that quicker timing that would become prevalent in later seasons. And I don't mind that it's loaded to the hilt with Gamera and Fugitive Alien, which probably saves it a lot of points with me. Season four is a close second. |
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Post by callipygias on Sept 27, 2010 21:35:17 GMT -5
Since so many of you are voting season 8, I'd love to see a defense of the view that... a) A full season of Bill as Crow is better than a whole season of Trace as Crow and b) A full season of Pearl, Brain Guy, and Bobo is better than a full season of Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank. Go. Season 8 is definitely my favorite, but I wouldn't defend either of those. As much as I enjoy host segments, they're not much of a factor to my overall enjoyment of the show. And my favorite single character on the show... on any show, will probably always be Trace's Crow. Still, favorite season: 8. Go figure. |
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Post by Truck Farmer on Sept 27, 2010 23:28:01 GMT -5
My vote has to go to season 6. I recently compiled my Top 50 faves and almost half of season 6 makes my top 50. And between #610 - #618 every episode but one makes my top 50, including 4 in my top 10 with a fifth at #11.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 23:46:37 GMT -5
And i'll go with 4.... as per Atari's argument which is a first since i was all about 6 before.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Sept 28, 2010 1:15:37 GMT -5
5 is my favorite season. It offered up the most experiments on my top 50.
8 was the #2 provider to my top 50... which takes me to Mr. A's question. Your right, but it doesn't matter because the reason that I watch this show (with some exceptions) is for the riffs.
It doesn't matter if it's Trace or Bill, or even who the Mads are -even though I prefer Clay and Frank- Because the skits are like a nice side dish that only take up a small section of the experiment (maybe 15 to 20 minutes?). The main course, the meat and potatoes that make up the body of an episode are those theater segments and the riffs provided (an hour and 10 minutes).
Take my high grade for Deathstalker as an example: I can put up with annoying Pearl, because she's only around for a wee bit. The majority of my time is spent with the hilarious movie quips.
So season 8 works (and ranks as my 2nd favorite) because I'm laughing. I'm enjoying a lot of what they are offering. With "Jack Frost" I laugh so hard my sides hurt. "Agent for Harm", "Riding with Death", "Deadly Mantis"... I laugh, I enjoy myself - that Frank & Trace are MIA, does not change that fact.
(and I agree, I couldn't imagine them doing the Chicago skit in later seasons, but likewise I couldn't see season 4's group doing that hilarious "Mike on Trail" bit from Harm - Bobo was spot on, Crow's profanity laced defense... all perfectly wonderful and fitting for those performers. So each offers up something special and unique)
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I agree four was sharper, but I like the fact season 3 seems to have a little more grain. It's a little rougher around the edges, but it still has most of that quicker timing that would become prevalent in later seasons. 
