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Post by Mighty Jack on Mar 29, 2011 0:11:33 GMT -5
Thought this made for a fun read, from Rotten Tomatoes... www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/creepiest_movie_childrenAgree, disagree, think they left someone out? (like the blue, pantless boy in the Grudge?) I think you could fit Cameron Bright in there somewhere. When he was a lad, he's was just creepy all on his own. And I guess you couldn't have 2 from the Ring - but the kid who played the son was kind of creepy too.
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Post by mitchell33 on Mar 29, 2011 0:15:35 GMT -5
well the little kid in 'Pet Semetary" the 1st one of course after he gets brought back from the dead used to give me nightmares actually! he he. they seemed to left him off the list. hard to believe that the kid is going to be like 25 i think this year?
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Post by BJ on Mar 29, 2011 0:58:57 GMT -5
That's a very strange list to me. I think Danny's probably the least creepy aspect of the Shining, and Claudia (Interview) isn't a child at all. And there's no one included from Children of the Corn?
I guess I'm not one to ask though, as evil children usually just annoy me rather than inspire terror. Rod Serling was one of the few who ever got it right, and the Omen is excellent as well.
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Post by Torgo on Mar 29, 2011 11:29:19 GMT -5
Lame. Seriously, Samara? She's one of the worst film characters in history. She doesn't so much as inspire fear in me as much as she does make me want to laugh out loud at her pathetic choice for an afterlife.
Michael Myers and Henry Evans are a maybe. The coldness of their souls were very impressionable, especially as I watched the movies in my youth. It would have been preferable if they used the original Michael Myers instead of the 2007 one, but I guess the memorable opening scene of the original Halloween just wasn't extensive enough, so they went with the one that took up half a movie.
Regan...all of the creepiness of this child lied squarely on the demon inside of her. Other than that, she was normal as normal could be. I think her listing is a cheat.
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Post by TheNewMads on Mar 29, 2011 13:52:43 GMT -5
no love for the reanimated zombie child from "night of the living dead"? she only killed her own mother by hacking her in the chest with a dull, rusty garden trowel about two dozen times and then dismembered and ate her own father. i guess that doesn't rate when compared with the kid from "the shining" (who, incidentally, was a good guy and, far from doing anything creepy himself, spent most of the movie having creepy things happen to HIM).
dag. is there no justice?
also, a decent movie version of "lord of the flies" apparently needs to be made. i've never seen the 60s version but i'm guessing it couldn't be very good, because it should be a cornucopia of creepy children.
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Post by Skyroniter on Mar 29, 2011 13:56:14 GMT -5
Patty McCormack as Rhoda Penmark in The Bad Seed (1956) tops my list. She would smile at you then try to kill you.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Mar 29, 2011 23:13:31 GMT -5
Patty McCormack as Rhoda Penmark in The Bad Seed (1956) tops my list. She would smile at you then try to kill you. Yeah that's a classic. Haven't seen the movie in ages, but she was a nasty one, all smiles and pigtials and a killer's heart.
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Post by Frameous on Mar 29, 2011 23:17:05 GMT -5
Glad to see Alice Spages on that list. That movie is high on the creep factor.
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Post by Mitchell on Apr 2, 2011 9:42:27 GMT -5
That's a very strange list to me. I think Danny's probably the least creepy aspect of the Shining, and Claudia (Interview) isn't a child at all. And there's no one included from Children of the Corn? THANK YOU. Any list that leaves off that Mordrcai freak automatically fails. He still creeps me out.
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Post by caucasoididiot on Apr 3, 2011 12:02:00 GMT -5
I've been doing a lot of J-horror lately, and while I can't comment on Samara I thought that Toshio from the Ju-on series was pretty effectively creepy.
On a wholly different axis of creepiness was the girl group "Dessert" in Suicide Circle and all that appends to them. Can't say much more without a spoiler alert.
Edit: So, I'm guessing Samara must be from the US "Ring" remake? I just watched the original and the vengeful ghost is Sadako there. I probably wouldn't consider her a contender for this topic, but the movie was good. But I can really see how even with the best of intentions it would be hard to remake it in the US without becoming a parody.
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Post by Torgo on Apr 3, 2011 23:00:58 GMT -5
Kayako > Toshio. But then again, she wasn't a little kid, so I can't put her up for consideration.
Technically I think Samara and Sadako could possibly be considered the same character. This is just IMO, of course. Sadako gets an edge because Ringu 0: Birthday was probably the only movie of the series that I actually kind of liked.
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Post by caucasoididiot on Apr 4, 2011 10:13:54 GMT -5
I haven't seen that one, just Ringu and Rasen. On the strength of those it does seem a stretch to call her a child, and only in the latter does she really emerge as a character.
I did like them, though, especially the way Rasen went beyond just a rehash and actually introduced some new ideas.
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Post by Torgo on Apr 4, 2011 12:50:59 GMT -5
I found Rasen to be problematic, but interesting. I liked it a hell of a lot better than Ringu 2, which was without a doubt the worst of the films (at least, not taking The Ring Two into consideration). It was kind of neat that they filmed the first two books in the series and released them the exact same day, though that did put them in direct competition with each other, and of course Ringu emerged victorious. Still, I am kind of disappointed they didn't make Loop instead of scrapping Rasen/Spiral and filming their own sequel. I haven't read the books, but if it was as different as Ringu and Rasen were to each other, it might have been interesting to watch at least.
As long as we're on the subject of Japanese films, if we can add teenagers, I'd say Mitsuko from Battle Royale was very creepy. She was creepier in the book and manga, but she was brought to the screen quite effectively. It's too bad Kitamura was such a different character in the movie than he was in the book, because he probably would have qualified as well.
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Post by caucasoididiot on Apr 4, 2011 15:43:26 GMT -5
Was "Loop" a third novel? Somehow my preference would be to leave the future at the end of Rasen unknown, but I could be convinced. It's also possible the book and movie were quite different. Have you seen all the Ju-on versions? I've seen the two originals and the two US remakes, but not the two Japanese remakes. In a way they seem like they might be the most definitive, Shimizu being less limited in budget but not having to reformulate for foreign tastes. Without spoilers, how different is it from the "bookends"? Speaking of spoilers, the following might be one for those who haven't seen it. The two versions I've seen kind of straddle my preferences, in that it felt like the US remakes explained too much while the originals didn't explain enough. From the Hollywood one I get that Kayako and Toshio were killed by her husband, which is certainly implied in the first but not really spelled out. On the other hand, Kayako's diary in the first, and the people she goes after even before her husband, don't make her come off as any sort of righteous avenger. The US version diary makes her sound kind of like a silly, middle-aged schoolgirl, stressing the stalker elements of the original much less. I'd agree with you that she's creepier than Toshio, at least in a certain way. But in the first one every time we see her she's already the preternatural demon, while when Kobayashi first comes across Toshio there's a nice element of his seeming to be off only in the manner of a traumatized child, until we get that shot of him over Kobayashi's shoulder. I liked that element. By the way, these are apparently shorts that Shimizu made a couple years before the original, but that work just like deleted scenes detailing the fates of Tsuyoshi and Kanna: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxuXP3BMwAwww.youtube.com/watch?v=TaQm2YhPAPc
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Post by Torgo on Apr 4, 2011 19:36:27 GMT -5
Loop was the third of four novels, following Ring and Spiral and followed by the prequel Birthday. I haven't read any of them, though, so I don't know how faithful the films were.
I've seen every Ju-On film except the recent White Ghost and Black Ghost. I adore the television productions and the first theatrical is pretty fantastic too. Ju-On 2 (theatrical)...not so much.
A good amount of what was in The Grudge that wasn't in the original television Ju-On film came from the theatrical (they were both kind of fused together for The Grudge). But the film doesn't really shed all that much more light on Kayako and Toshio than the TV productions did. It was basically a Ju-On 3, with a brand new anthology of stories revolving around the house.
My interpretation of Kayako's spirit is that she was so mentally disturbed that when she died, her "Grudge/Curse" became more powerful than others. Add in to the fact that I don't think that she was the one who killed her husband at the end of the first Ju-On film (I'm pretty sure that was the wife of the teacher), so she never avenged her death, making her kind of a lost soul, confused and angry. At least, that's the way I reason why she and Toshio always stick around yet the other cursed spirits are never heard from again.
Though I hear a lot of people state that Kayako and Toshio aren't the ghosts of themselves, but just imprints of a curse based upon their emotional state when they died. They're kind of like the shark in Jaws. There is no reason why they hunt or attack, but there's no stopping them when they have a target in their sight.
And speaking of our creepy boy Toshio, here's something for everyone to enjoy...
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