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Post by inlovewithcrow on Apr 21, 2011 15:49:29 GMT -5
I loathed the Cameron movie but I happened upon a ten cent copy of some old, old book about it, published in either the 20's or 30's originally, well researched, and I've been searching for the title here but can't find it. As it ends up, something like 50% of people interviewed said just a few years after the fact that they were on the last lifeboat (must've been crowded!) and being female didn't get you much benefit--being rich did. And the band didn't play "nearer my god to thee" so there you go. Here's the real song, they say: www.youtube.com/watch?v=667B7U-R2M0
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Post by solgroupie on Apr 22, 2011 11:28:12 GMT -5
you know, i don't despise the cameron movie. i know it gets a lot of hate, and though i'm not it's biggest fan, i can't say i hate it, either. it was well made. i was just more interested in the tragedy itself - i liked how cameron included noteworthy passengers, from john jacob astor, to a female servant (i forget her name at the moment) who was lost before the ship went under. people have scoffed at the special affects, but compared to some of the lame ass ones we have today, i can't find fault with them. i just couldn't buy into the whole jack/rose story, i was thoroughly sick of it by the end. that is one of the reasons the titanic rifftrax is one of my favorites.
that being said, thanks for posting the link to dream of autumn song, ilwc. i had read before that many survivors said they remember hearing nearer my god to thee being played, but more remembered dream of autumn being played as the ship went down. it's a haunting melody and i liked the images of the ship in the video.
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Post by Cerrita on May 18, 2011 22:46:13 GMT -5
i'm a huge fan of titanic. and let me make it clear that i was BEFORE james cameron got a hold of the story. It's an amazing movie for set design, and a lot of the background facts are accurate, as well as a small nod to a previous Titanic movie. I could do without the lovesick kids, though. As to the last song... I'm sure both songs were played at some point during the night. Perhaps one right after the other. Witness testomony is unreliable, especially when people are more concerned with finding a way off the ship than what the band is doing. Still, it would be interesting to compile survivors testomony as to which song, versus when their lifeboat left.
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Post by BJ on Apr 14, 2012 22:58:58 GMT -5
and now 100 years.
Remember that scene in Ghosbusters 2 when the Titanic arrives in New York? I'm hoping that happens tonight, and all the ghosts go to James Cameron's house and beat the hell out of him.
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Post by TV's Cowboy on Apr 15, 2012 16:37:44 GMT -5
What better way to mark the anniversary then with a pirated NES game from Hong Kong? Seriously, how can take something like the Titanic and turn it into Double Dragon? Well someone found a way.
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Post by nondescript spice on Nov 13, 2013 13:43:15 GMT -5
BUMP! i went back to the titanic museum in pigeon forge monday with some of my family. thoroughly enjoyed it, as i was able to spend more time this go around. the last time i went, it was with my two nephews and b-i-l, and they weren't very interested. they came along this time too, along with my sister, cousin and a gf of one of my nephews, and this time everyone seemed to be more into it. also, the last time we were there, it was much more crowded, as it was newly opened and summertime. so i didn't feel pressured to move through too quickly. there were some new additions - throughout the museum are glass cases with actual titanic artifacts - they have quite a few, really. i saw an old trunk that still had remains of stickers on it that had been pulled from the water, and some still beautiful pieces of hand carved oak that came from the original grand staircase. there were many plates, cups, silverware, etc. that looked brand new. i was interested in the old log books, telegrams and postcards. it was amazing to see the wedding band and a wedding suit that was recovered from isidor strauss's trunk on display. for those unfamiliar with the stories of the ship, they were the elderly couple that refused to be separated and died together. they put isidor's wife, ida, in a lifeboat, but she said she went where he went, and gave up her seat. they were last seen sitting in a couple of deck chairs as the ship began its descent. ida's body was never recovered. they are featured in the '97 movie as the old couple holding each other in bed near the end. there was also a trumpet that had been recovered, a really fascinating looking old kodak camera, and many other personal items - coin purses, eyeglasses, keys, etc. they give you a "boarding pass" prior to the tour. it has an actual passenger or crew member from titanic and a brief bio on them. and you find out at the end of the tour if that person survived or not. kind of gruesome, but effective. it is sobering to see that huge wall with every name of every person who was on titanic. out of my crew, we all survived but my cousin and my nephew's gf. i was violet jessop, a third class stewardess. i already knew when i got my pass that she lived. she was a beautiful girl that received four marriage proposals during titanic's brief run. not only did she survive the sinking of the titanic, she survived the sinking of the brittanic, which sank during wwI. and she was also on titanic's sister ship, olympic, when it nearly sank. she died in 1971, but she wrote a book about her experiences that i would like to track down one day. the museum had a new room of props and costumes from the james cameron '97 film, but i wasn't very interested in any of that. there is a lot i like about that movie, but more that i don't like (*cough, cough* jack/rose). they still had the water you could touch that was the same temperature of the north atlantic that night. it takes your breath away. and there's a massive wall made of actual ice to give you an idea of how large and solid the iceberg was. you can sit in a replica of a lifeboat and press different buttons to hear survivor stories, and there are three small portions of the deck at different times. it shows you how steep the deck got as titanic sank, and the last one - it's all you can do to pull yourself up on it. it takes about two hours to go through it if you take your time, but it didn't feel like it took nearly that long. they have men and woman who work there dressed as stewards and stewardesses to answer questions - i got into a long thing with a steward about bruce ismay and captain smith that went on so long my family ditched me and went to the next room. then you have to go through the gift shop, of course. you can buy your own le coeur de la mer from $10 to $200, but what i really wanted was a replica of one of the newspapers after the disaster, but they didn't have the one i wanted in stock. couldn't take any pictures inside, which was a drag. this was the only picture i took while in the parking lot.
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Post by Grape on Nov 16, 2013 11:55:27 GMT -5
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Post by nondescript spice on Nov 16, 2013 20:18:19 GMT -5
thanks for posting that, grape, i did find it very interesting. hard to believe that after hartley's intended passed away, the violin was just given to the salvation army. i think it should have gone into a museum, for it would have to be one of the most coveted items from the ship. as i said, there was a trumpet in a glass case at the museum in pigeon forge, but seeing the actual violin that belonged to hartley would be incredible.
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Post by Skyroniter on Nov 16, 2013 23:39:42 GMT -5
That Violet was quite the looker. I would have proposed too if I hadn't still been hospitalized from the effects of the mustard gas. Damn that Kaiser Wilhelm!
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