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Post by milospinstripe on Sept 20, 2014 4:01:00 GMT -5
And now Adrian Peterson's thrown his hat into the ring.
Isn't Goodell a lawyer? Shouldn't he know better than to allow this type of thing to go on without some serious repercussions from the leadership of the NFL aka himself?
It really shows you how much of a greedy jerk he is, allowing Ray Rice only a two game suspension after seeing the video of him abusing his old lady. Of course you don't want to cut your big name player on your big market team. it's pitiful.
Look how they did New Orleans, a decidedly small market team, not as big of a money maker as a New York or a New England. They took a pay for play incentive system that every team in the NFL had some form of at some point, many players, former and current, have stated, and vilified it and called it a "bounty system".
They banned Coach Sean Peyton, GM Mickey Loomis, and several others for the entire season over this nonsense. But Ray Rice can beat the hell out of his chick and get suspended for two games.
Goodell needs to go no matter what, this is despicable. And I don't just say this as a vengeful New Orleans fanatic, I say it for the sake of keeping things in perspective on this guys lopsided track record on how he handles things in the organization.
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Post by GarrettCRW on Sept 20, 2014 23:02:11 GMT -5
And then there's the report by Outside the Lines that the Ravens and NFL did know about the second video. To his credit, John Harbaugh wanted Rice gone from the first word of the story, but was vetoed.
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Post by Crowfan on Sept 21, 2014 10:56:01 GMT -5
Apparently it was the Ravens who lobbied Goodell for the two game suspension, which of course he got. As more and more information comes out, I think it's just going to get worse and worse. Roger Goodell seems to have no idea how serious an issue domestic violence is, I mean, I have a sister, and I know how I'd feel if that was her getting knocked out in that elevator.
And I was wondering why the Hell was John Harbaugh out doing the press conference, rather than the owner and the GM? It's the coach's responsibility to get the team ready for the game, not to do the job of the higher ups. Thought that was really crappy on Baltimore's part.
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Post by Crowfan on Sept 21, 2014 11:07:14 GMT -5
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Post by milospinstripe on Sept 21, 2014 16:01:01 GMT -5
Apparently it was the Ravens who lobbied Goodell for the two game suspension, which of course he got. As more and more information comes out, I think it's just going to get worse and worse. Roger Goodell seems to have no idea how serious an issue domestic violence is, I mean, I have a sister, and I know how I'd feel if that was her getting knocked out in that elevator. Did you happen to hear the press conference he did on Friday? They broadcasted it on the radio live, it was pretty bad. He wants everyone associated with the NFL to take a course in domestic violence within the next 30 days. Sure, its a nice sentiment, but its kind of late for that. Anyway, I think that those involved in such violence are aware that what they are doing is wrong, but because of alcohol and/or vicious tempers, they go and do it anyway. IMO the courses aren't going to hurt anything, but what they need to do is take accountability for their players criminal actions and react harshly when stuff like this occurs. If they keep letting people off soft they're going to get the idea that nothing is going to happen to them.
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Post by Crowfan on Sept 21, 2014 16:10:28 GMT -5
I was at work when the press conference was live but SportsCenter covered it, of course. I really don't see how anything is going to change UNLESS the NFL starts losing sponsors. Money talks, and Goodell's job is to raise money and support the owners, who put him in the job in the first place.
Football is a violent game at its core. But not all of the players are criminals. I think what is needed is to highlight more of the "good guys" who donate to charities, and stuff like that. And I agree with you about holding players responsible for their actions, but you have to remember, and if you've ever played sports, you've seen this, where the star players get away with things that scrubs and backups can't.
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Post by milospinstripe on Sept 21, 2014 16:30:31 GMT -5
And I agree with you about holding players responsible for their actions, but you have to remember, and if you've ever played sports, you've seen this, where the star players get away with things that scrubs and backups can't. Soooo true. When I was in high school we had a quarterback who was phenomenal. He used to spend the night at the head coaches house sometimes and the coach even let him borrow and drive his Expedition on occasion. Can you imagine if a story like that came out today? It would be considered highly questionable lol.
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Post by Crowfan on Sept 21, 2014 16:50:46 GMT -5
It totally would. Hell look at the Jameis Winston situation at Florida State. I'm guessing nothing will happen to him unless they start losing...but they've struggled this year, even with him....so we'll see.
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Post by mylungswereaching on Sept 23, 2014 21:19:40 GMT -5
Football is a violent game at its core. But not all of the players are criminals. I think what is needed is to highlight more of the "good guys" who donate to charities, and stuff like that. And I agree with you about holding players responsible for their actions, but you have to remember, and if you've ever played sports, you've seen this, where the star players get away with things that scrubs and backups can't. Ray Rice was one of the good guy's who donated to charities and stuff like that. That was one of the reasons they didn't want to get rid of him. How many times do you hear, "He couldn't have done that. He's such a nice guy." You almost never hear "I knew he'd do something like that. The guy was always a jerk."
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Post by Crowfan on Sept 24, 2014 4:58:38 GMT -5
True, and they also say that about serial killers who live next door as well, now that I think about it.
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Post by mylungswereaching on Sept 24, 2014 14:43:08 GMT -5
"He was a quiet boy" has a different meaning in our house. When we were first married, my wife and I were watching the news about a guy who killed his lawyer. When they interviewed the neighbor he said "I alway's knew that guy would kill someone some day. He was an evil guy." I started laughing. My wife asked why. I told her they always say "He was a quiet guy. Kept to himself." For the next few years, every time we saw a news report about a murder, the news crew asked the neighbors, same quote.
If I ask her about one of her students or a new boss and she says "He's a quiet boy" I know to look out for him.
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Post by mylungswereaching on Sept 24, 2014 15:24:40 GMT -5
I'm still kind of uneasy with the idea that the NFL should be a kind of law enforcement agency. Do they have to have their own private investigators on the payroll? The cases lately are easy, they either had it on tape or they had a confession. What if a wife in a bitter divorce case says he hit her? What if there is tons of circumstantial evidence but both the husband and wife deny it happened. Most legal cases aren't so clear cut. Should they hire their own investigators and maybe get in the way of the real police? What about if the guy is in treatment? Should the NFL go against the wishes of his doctors in order to punish him if the courts decide that he is better off in treatment than prison?
If he's arrested and charged, of course, suspend him. But if he isn't and there's no smoking gun, do you punish a player because you think he probably did it? Without the tape, should the NFL have suspended Ray Rice?
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