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Post by wedestroymyths on Feb 9, 2022 12:21:27 GMT -5
Also apparently the app that's been released isn't the actual Gizmoplex app, but a placeholder for backers to watch the episodes they got as rewards. Interesting--nice find. Overall, the placeholder app works well and is fine (especially knowing it's more of a placeholder--explains some of the weird things like the images with lists of episodes from each season, but no way to organize episodes or what not). If nothing else, it shows there will be a working app. And hopefully it will be able to withstand the crush of excitement when new episodes are released.
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Post by jadenh on Feb 9, 2022 15:05:30 GMT -5
I do kinda wish there was another way to watch the first episodes premiere without having to pay $100 upfront, but oh well. I guess I does give some incentive for people to wait until the Gizmoplex is public, as there will be not one, but three new episodes to watch.
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Post by BoB3K on Feb 9, 2022 15:15:47 GMT -5
Any 12-month pass sold after that date won't activate until early May after episode 3 premieres. Wow, so non-early adopters are going to miss the first three eps?! Hmm. I do kinda wish there was another way to watch the first episodes premiere without having to pay $100 upfront, Oh, there's another way, and I guarantee many people will use it. This just seems like bad business for NuMST3K.
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Post by jadenh on Feb 9, 2022 19:19:51 GMT -5
I know there's another way, and I'm sure a lot of people will watch the episodes that way. But I know that it's forbidden to mention it directly. So, I won't. We'll see how well the Gizmoplex does when it launches.
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Post by wedestroymyths on Feb 9, 2022 21:31:42 GMT -5
Wow, so non-early adopters are going to miss the first three eps?! Hmm. I don't think they'll "miss" those episodes--they'll just have to wait to watch them. Or do the other thing.
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Post by monkeypretzel on Feb 9, 2022 22:04:10 GMT -5
Also apparently the app that's been released isn't the actual Gizmoplex app, but a placeholder for backers to watch the episodes they got as rewards.They now refer to the apps as the "MST3K streaming apps" (or the "OTT apps") instead of the "Gizmoplex apps." I went back...all mentions of the apps until 2022 called them "Gizmoplex apps" in the Kickstarter and updates. I don't blame the confusion I see out there from many fans who mistakingly believe that since the apps are live, the Gizmoplex must be, too. But from what I understand, the apps that people are using on the various platforms they've been released for (I think Amazon hadn't approved yet, as of yesterday) are indeed the actual apps that they promised to deliver, not placeholders. Ivan's made it pretty clear on their forum that the apps are ONLY to make watching episodes easier: "For now, the value of the apps lies ENTIRELY in making it easy to watch this content on other devices and outside of the web browser." (Bolded in the original) This was part of a message responding to a user who expressed disappointment that the app, as it exists, doesn't allow a user to easily access their owned episodes unless they go in the right way. Their observation: "I should be able to do to explore and easily find all the episodes I have access to. Instead, I have to go in and out of backer packs for Gizmoplex Visitor Pass, Shorts Collections, Backers Collection, Deluxe Collection, etc. When you go to seasons it doesn’t highlight episodes you already own or pull them out."
More of Ivan's response, which I think is interesting: "This is why we’re building the Gizmoplex – because through VHX, and the VHX OTT apps, we do not have the ability to create those sorts of organizational options. If we did, we might not have bothered trying to design the Gizmoplex at all. Can’t promise that the app – at least in the incarnation we can afford with the EXCEPTIONALLY small budget we put aside to launch across six different platforms – will ever offer the functionality you’re asking for. But I can tell you we’d like it to, and we’ll keep looking into it. We have almost NO control whatsoever over the user experience, because the apps are essentially white-labeled from VHX."
Ivan ends with a big MAYBE about any future development of the apps to offer the functionality of the Gizmoplex website : "If it turns out that enough people prefer the apps to the website, we can explore the path of building 100% custom apps for these platforms in the future… but that will cost a LOT more to build and support, and the budget just isn’t there for it, at least for now."So it seems like Ivan is saying that there's not going to be much development of the apps from where they stand now, for the near future. PS: There is another post on the same thread where a poster asks if there's anything in the app to stop you from purchasing an episode/package you already own, again. The same user who posted the comment about it being difficult to find what you own in the app, said they tested it and unfortunately, there is not. So according to that person, the app will allow you to buy what you already have paid for and own.
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Post by BoB3K on Feb 9, 2022 23:55:46 GMT -5
So they went from a VR theater extravaganza experience to not being able to simply show a user the list of eps they own or a list of all eps with little icons to show which you own, can watch, can buy.
And there's no level between poor and "100% custom apps" ?
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Post by Megalon on Feb 10, 2022 0:00:36 GMT -5
Ivan ends with a big MAYBE about any future development of the apps to offer the functionality of the Gizmoplex website : "If it turns out that enough people prefer the apps to the website, we can explore the path of building 100% custom apps for these platforms in the future… but that will cost a LOT more to build and support, and the budget just isn’t there for it, at least for now."So it seems like Ivan is saying that there's not going to be much development of the apps from where they stand now, for the near future. Does this mean you won't be able to stream Gizmoplex content to other devices, such as a TV? That's kind of an important feature these days.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Feb 10, 2022 8:47:09 GMT -5
If your TV/streaming device has a browser, it should be accessible. Otherwise, the apps seem to be intended for the TV viewers, while the GizmoPlex is more for web-based streaming.
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Post by dudehitscar on Feb 10, 2022 15:27:49 GMT -5
Just in case folks want to see what it looks like now.. this is how you access the content you own on the app. You can see the main navigation button on the bottom that says library. This is how the content I own comes up. The different bundles are there and the individual episodes I bought through the VHX website are there. I just wish there was a way to port the episodes I bought through Amazon over the years.. but I got a lot of those through the packages.
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Post by dudehitscar on Feb 10, 2022 15:35:23 GMT -5
PS: There is another post on the same thread where a poster asks if there's anything in the app to stop you from purchasing an episode/package you already own, again. The same user who posted the comment about it being difficult to find what you own in the app, said they tested it and unfortunately, there is not. So according to that person, the app will allow you to buy what you already have paid for and own. It's weird. For the episodes that I bought outside of the kickstarter packages it doesn't allow me to buy what I already have but for the first netflix season episodes (one example) I can 'buy or rent' it.
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Post by dudehitscar on Feb 10, 2022 17:03:48 GMT -5
If your TV/streaming device has a browser, it should be accessible. Otherwise, the apps seem to be intended for the TV viewers, while the GizmoPlex is more for web-based streaming. it will be like the rifftrax website in that way.. Which is why I am happy they made the apps (even with the current quirks). I wish Rifftrax made apps like this.
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Post by wedestroymyths on Feb 10, 2022 21:21:23 GMT -5
Am for sure a bit disappointed there’s not a better way to organize episodes, but it’s not too big a deal. Might just have to keep a list of what I’ve got in kickstarter rewards so I do t accidentally double-buy something. Kind of wish we could just “trade in” those reward packs for individual episodes of each.
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Post by BoB3K on Feb 11, 2022 13:11:28 GMT -5
Kind of wish we could just “trade in” those reward packs for individual episodes of each. That's a pretty good idea, and one they might actually go for since it doesn't involve solving any technical problems.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Feb 11, 2022 14:54:57 GMT -5
It occurs to me that we're 3 weeks out from the launch and premiere. Doesn't seem like it.
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