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Post by Dr. Ted Nelson on Apr 4, 2004 0:12:05 GMT -5
Im not sure this needs to be discussed. But it was definitely MST funny.
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Post by Dr. Ted Nelson on Apr 4, 2004 0:15:04 GMT -5
Oh, In case you have no idea what I mean by this...
Horatio Sanz (as David Crosby) in an SNL sketch with Donald Trump (as himself) calls Trump "Trumpy".
Trumpy from Pod People-Not the best MST but Trumpy, like ALF, are forever in my mind.
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Post by Hellcat on Apr 4, 2004 3:42:42 GMT -5
I noticed that too. I had a fleeting mental image of him saying, "Trumpy, you can do magic!" or "Trumpy, you can do stupid things!" Too bad he didn't go for it.
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Post by Rowsdower on Apr 4, 2004 9:13:59 GMT -5
Man, I caught the show last night and...sweet jesus...it is PATHETIC. There isn't one talented (even remotely) person on that show...it's a cultural train wreck. If it weren't for the fact that these losers can be replaced like socks I'd be calling for the show to be cancelled...it's simply horrid. I just wait for a hopefully 'better era' epsiode to come on after...
I noticed the Trumpy thing as well (and I haven't even seen that ep of MST3K)...but...Donald Trump? Are they THAT strapped for guests? Remember when the show represented some sort of anti-establishment stoner rebel bent? Now their polishing Corporate America's inflated egos? They've become as run of the mill as, Jay Leno or Rosie O'Donnell or...they're just a celeb PR soap box...it's disgusting...and watching an evil moneywhore misogynist like Trump playing the 'See, I can laugh at myself...please forget that I am a DESTROYER OF SOULS." card is nauseating.
Ever un-hip, SNL will be kissing Janet Jackson's ass next week. Wow, I can't wait for all the "wardrobe malfunction" jokes those HACKS have planned for next week.
Agh, the Super Bowl debacle...
There's further evidence of the Western World's hopelessly archaic assbackward attitude towards 'sex'... a whole SuperBowl show dipped in sexploitative pseudo-pornographic S&M pop music dung and...it suddenly becomes 'shocking' when Janet flashes her EVIL FEMALE NIPPLE!!!!!!!!!! It is EVIL! IT IS FEMALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"That show was A-O-K with the sadomasochistic sex torture fantasy stuff and empty, crappy pop crappola and whatnot but when Janet displayed her female chest it became unwholesome and un-Chistian!"
Sorry folks...Jesus was not an idiot...certainly not dumb enough to see a 100% NATURAL nipple as some sort of monstrosity. "HIDE THE CHILDREN!!!!!"
IT IS A GODDAMNED NIPPLE YOU @#@@$@#ING MONGOLOIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Intelligent people have an issue with the whole dressed up "Rowsdower"-tease (sorry) 'naughty schoolgirl' element of Spears', Caguilera's 'act'.... idiots single out the 'mammary gland' flash as...something...for some unknown reason.
"You can play the little slut and perfom vapid pop music and pretend to be totally God-fearing and all that crap that makes you okay in our 'books' (whatever those are)...but, we catch you smoking that filthy mari-wana or having sex-ual intercourse out of wed lock and you will be destro-yed."
GODDAMN...I'm sorry for the rant but...ah, it's...it's really really really bad these days.
#nosmileys
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Post by yousonuva on Apr 4, 2004 9:47:28 GMT -5
what Rowsdower said.
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Post by Rowsdower on Apr 4, 2004 10:18:01 GMT -5
"Rowsdowertease" I like it...
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Apr 4, 2004 11:05:26 GMT -5
Eloquently stated Rowsdower.
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Post by BobJohnson on Apr 4, 2004 11:05:44 GMT -5
Man, I caught the show last night and...sweet jesus...it is PATHETIC. There isn't one talented (even remotely) person on that show...it's a cultural train wreck. If it weren't for the fact that these losers can be replaced like socks I'd be calling for the show to be cancelled...it's simply horrid. I just wait for a hopefully 'better era' epsiode to come on after... I noticed the Trumpy thing as well (and I haven't even seen that ep of MST3K)...but...Donald Trump? Are they THAT strapped for guests? Remember when the show represented some sort of anti-establishment stoner rebel bent? Now their polishing Corporate America's inflated egos? They've become as run of the mill as, Jay Leno or Rosie O'Donnell or...they're just a celeb PR soap box...it's disgusting...and watching an evil moneywhore misogynist like Trump playing the 'See, I can laugh at myself...please forget that I am a DESTROYER OF SOULS." card is nauseating. Ever un-hip, SNL will be kissing Janet Jackson's ass next week. Wow, I can't wait for all the "wardrobe malfunction" jokes those HACKS have planned for next week. Agh, the Super Bowl debacle... There's further evidence of the Western World's hopelessly archaic assbackward attitude towards 'sex'... a whole SuperBowl show dipped in sexploitative pseudo-pornographic S&M pop music dung and...it suddenly becomes 'shocking' when Janet flashes her EVIL FEMALE NIPPLE!!!!!!!!!! It is EVIL! IT IS FEMALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "That show was A-O-K with the sadomasochistic sex torture fantasy stuff and empty, crappy pop crappola and whatnot but when Janet displayed her female chest it became unwholesome and un-Chistian!" Sorry folks...Jesus was not an idiot...certainly not dumb enough to see a 100% NATURAL nipple as some sort of monstrosity. "HIDE THE CHILDREN!!!!!" IT IS A GODDAMNED NIPPLE YOU @#@@$@#ING MONGOLOIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Intelligent people have an issue with the whole dressed up "Rowsdower"-tease (sorry) 'naughty schoolgirl' element of Spears', Caguilera's 'act'.... idiots single out the 'mammary gland' flash as...something...for some unknown reason. "You can play the little slut and perfom vapid pop music and pretend to be totally God-fearing and all that crap that makes you okay in our 'books' (whatever those are)...but, we catch you smoking that filthy mari-wana or having sex-ual intercourse out of wed lock and you will be destro-yed." GODDAMN...I'm sorry for the rant but...ah, it's...it's really really really bad these days. I could disagree more with you Rowsdower, are you forgetting Darrell Hammond? One of the best impersonators since Dana Carvey and weekend update hasn't been this funny since Dennis Miller did it. They USED to be on a counter-culture social bent, but their is no counter-culture anymore. It is the culture. I have never enjoyed SNL more since the last great period in the early 90's. It's all about having an open mind about comedy |
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Post by Rowsdower on Apr 4, 2004 11:40:07 GMT -5
I agree Darrell Hammond is the most talented on the show but...he's hardly a great talent that might...do something like...else.
It's funny that you mention Carvey because...as soon as Hammond started with the Regis sketch...I had to think of Carvey's much superior impersonation. To Hammond's credit, he managed to actually LOOK like Regis at several points and it was surreal...mostly though, he was just regurgitating Carvey's act from yesteryear (the high point of the show was Hammond's breaking down in laughter though).
Weekend Update is now the LOW point of the show (if that's possible)...a showcase for the annoying wannabe Mike Myers-Fallon (with his college pseudo-hip heartthrob, rock n roll savvy and blatant Wayne's World update (i.e. RIP OFF) with the web cast thing and...ah) and that Tina Fey with all her ode-to-herself "I'm a hot little number and I'll write it in to the show" ("cough" head writer) bits that have no place...What am I talking about...she has that one bit on the show yet it always manages to segue into something about her sexuality or her tits or whatever...last night she was desperately flashing her chest at the camera...WHY? Oh yeah, she's insecure...
Regardless, I disagree 100000000000000% on the news thang...it's the greatest sign that the show is DECEASED...they used to rip up politics (both 'sides') and were (largely) 'skeptical' of everything...now it's totally luke warm and guarded..."oh, we don't want to offend the right because of recent events" (I only say 'right' because they usuallly attacked the right wing dominance of western culture)...now there is NO bite whatsoever...just lame CRAPPY celebs pushing their CRAPPY movies...or CRAPPY politicians and LAME fly by night flash in the pan musicians...it's just awful.
If you actually view the show even remotely culturally relevant...that just proves that the world is coming to an end...soon.
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Post by Rowsdower on Apr 4, 2004 11:42:55 GMT -5
It's all about having an open mind about comedy Because I don't enjoy crap? |
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Post by BobJohnson on Apr 4, 2004 12:42:08 GMT -5
Because I don't enjoy crap? No, what may be crap to you, could be sensible comedy to another. SNL is not MST3K but it is still fresh IMHO as it ever was. |
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Post by TomServo69 on Apr 4, 2004 13:01:40 GMT -5
I've tried to watch the newer SNL lately, and, well, I just don't find anything they do on there to be funny. The last time I actually watched it and it was really funny was when they had Will Ferrell and Tracy Morgan. All these guys like Horatio Sanz and Jimmy Fallon were made to be second fiddles and now they're trying to sell them as main attractions. They're just not that funny. Darrell Hammond is funny, but, he's probably gonna be the next one to leave.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Apr 4, 2004 14:32:24 GMT -5
Hmmm, this is becoming an SNL rant, I'm on the verge of moving it to CF Mt.
I watched SNL from it's first year and even though not all of those shows hold up well now it was really something special then. I've watched it pretty regularly through the years but lately I just don't bother to tape it. I find very little of funny. I like Rowsdower's assessment of the news. And BobJohnson I'm glad you find it "fresh as it ever was" but as the show's older than you I'm not sure you're in a position to make a good call on that.
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Post by Rowsdower on Apr 4, 2004 14:37:50 GMT -5
Um, before anyone gets offended (I'm the first to admit that I always sound like I'm swinging at the fences and have very little 'postive' to say about...anything) by the "It's all about having an open mind about comedy/Because I don't enjoy crap?" bit...I was trying to goof on the fact that...I was offended by the "open mind" thing. My original reponse was much less polite. I just, find comments like that cheap and, if unintentional -sloppy. I am very open minded and have a great sense of humour (though I can't manage to see any humour in Bush being the president of the so-called free world)...wait, "Great Sense of Humour" sounds like a line from a Personals column...I LAUGH...that's all I do and all I want to do, it isn't even difficult to make me laugh (in an art school I once went to the other students surmised that I laughed at everything and did things like wiggle paint brushes and pens so that they appeared to be 'bendy' (that old trick) and I couldn't help but laugh like a complete retard (because of the situation, not because I found the actual 'bendy' brush to be hilarious)... my parents nicknamed me "Chuckles" as a kid 'cause I was always laughing...the only reason I am still around today is because of my love of laughter...I have a total Peter Pan complex and all I want to do is have fun and I've only survived to this age by laughing at what this cruel world dishes out...I would have killed myself by now (and trust me, I've tried and failed) if it weren't for the laughs...
Did I use the word "laugh" enough? Anyway, maybe BobJohnson didn't mean it sound as offensive as it came across but...I felt a little p.o.ed...probably because I'm the goofiest sob you ever could meet.
I've always seen myself as a good barometer for laughs because of my love of it...i.e. if you ain't making Matthew laugh, chances are YOU REALLY REALLY SUCK.
SNL is relying more and more on tired frat level jokes about "stoners, pot, fat guys, lesbians...etc." than ever before...it's not even REMOTELY clever...it's just jokes that you average imbeciles make on campus every day. Comedic performance doesn't even enter into it any more. D. Hammond would have been an ~ supporting player a while back...the fact that he is the only one with any personality whatsoever is beyond depressing (when I watch comedians fail I get depressed - it's as if there is some sort of comedic karma that pays things back in duces...)...and that fact remains that NO ONE of that cast has enough oomph or talent to rise above the wretched writing...................................
it makes me cringe a lot
it does not make me laugh at all
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Apr 4, 2004 14:41:53 GMT -5
Rowsdower (Matthew) is my favorite critic.
You're allright, for a Canadian.
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