WTF? Rhino must truly be idiotic!

[vanhagar3000]

Take a look at this. At first I thought Good Times owned the rights, but scroll down and it may just prove Rhino is idiotic...retrofilm.com/cgi-bin/data.pl?Category=Sci%20Fi/Horror&Year=197&cgifunction=Search

[vanhagar3000]

Other Public Domain titles:
101- The Crawling Eye
211- First Spaceship on Venus
212- GODZILLA VS. MEGALON!!!!!
321- Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
323- The Castle of Fu Manchu
402- The Giant Gila Monster
404- Teenager from Outer Space
408- Hercules Unchained
410- Hercules against the Moon Men
411- The Magic Sword
412- Hercules and the Captive Woman
416- The Beatniks
418- Attack of the the Eye Creatures
423- Bride of the Monster
502- Hercules
522- Teenage Crime-Wave
610- The Violent Years
621- The Beast of Yucca Flats
624- Samson vs. the vampire Women
701- Night of the Blood Beast

806- The Undead
807- Terror from Year 5000
817- Horror of Party Beach
902- The Phantom Planet
912- Screaming Skull
908- Touch of Satan
1007- Track of the Moonbeast

[vanhagar3000]

I don't know if it is public domain but 'Slime People' has been previously distributed by Rhino (as has 'Giant Gila Monster' and 'Hercules and the Captive Woman') but it is season one and Best Brains may veto that release.

Also 'The Robot vs. Aztec Mummy' and 'Mad Monster' are public domain but once again season 1. I only mentioned 'The Crawling Eye' because it is the FIRST NATIONAL EPISODE (therefore historical) and it wasn't that bad.

Also Radar Men from the Moon is public domain but also is season 1.

[Phantom Engineer]

806- The Undead
807- Terror from Year 5000
817- Horror of Party Beach

If these are PD I wonder why they wern't shown on Sci Fi recently.

[vanhagar3000]

Intresting MST3K Public Domain facts.

Didn't look for many KTMA's mainly because most of them are owned by the Andersons, Sandy Frank and some of them were 70's movies. I mostly looked at Sci-Fi, Horror and Explotation titles.

At least 44 episodes are public domain.
36 of these are owned by Comedy Central.
8 of these are owned by Sci-Fi
29 of the 36 Comedy Central ones are after the first season.

12 titles release by Rhino were NOT public domain but Rhino took the time to get the rights and release them. [Not including poopie, shorts or Amazing Colossal Man]

11 titles (I think) were public domain and released by Rhino.

'Boggy Creek II: and the legend continues' and 'Girl in Gold boots' are not public domain from what I can tell but were release by Best Brains. Touch of Satan and Hamlet released by Best Brains were public domain.

9 of the episodes still airing on Sci-Fi are not public domain.

Another intresting fact. TV Land owns the rights to 'Tabitha' and 'Square Pegs' two shows that only lasted a season and only have 24 episodes which they air only on weekends. Comedy Central does the same with 'the Critic'. So if a network were to buy JUST Comedy Central rights and JUST use public domain movies after the first season (that Best Brains would perfer) they would still have most episodes then the previously mentioned shows.

Now the list of Public Domain movies:
Season 1
1. 101- The Crawling Eye
2. 102- Robot vs. Aztec Mummy
3. 103- Mad Monster
4. 105- The Corpse Vanishes
5. 106- The Crawling Hand
6. 107- Robot Monster
7. 108- Slime People

Comedy Central Golden Age
8. 211- First Spaceship on Venus
9. 212- Godzilla vs. Megalon
10. 320- The Unearthly
11. 321- Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
12. 323- The Castle of Fu Manchu
13. 402- The Giant Gila Monster
14. 404- Teenager from Outer Space
15. 408- Hercules Unchained
16. 410- Hercules against the Moon Men
17. 411- The Magic Sword
18. 412- Hercules and the Captive Woman
19. 416- The Beatniks
20. 418- Attack of the the Eye Creatures
21. 423- Bride of the Monster
22. 502- Hercules
23. 507- I Accuse My Parents
24. 513- Brain the Wouldn’t Die
25. 515- The Wild World of Batwoman
26. 517- Beginning of the End
27. 518- The Atomic Brain
28. 522- Teenage Crime-Wave
29. 606- The Creeping Terror
30. 607- Bloodlust
31. 609- Skydivers
32. 610- The Violent Years
33. 619- Red Zone Cuba
34. 621- The Beast of Yucca Flats
35. 624- Samson vs. the vampire Women
36. 701- Night of the Blood Beast

Sci-Fi Era
37. 806- The Undead
38. 807- Terror from Year 5000
39. 817- Horror of Party Beach
40. 902- The Phantom Planet
41. 912- Screaming Skull
42. 908- Touch of Satan
43. 1007- Track of the Moonbeast
44. 1009- Hamlet

Now here are a couple of titles that Rhino released would be pretty simple to get the rights to.
45. 202- Sidehcakers
46. 204- Catalina Caper
47. 209- The Hellcats
48. 301- Cave Dwellers
49. 303- Pod People
50. 424- Manos, the hands of Fate
51. 506- Eegah
52. 511- Gunslinger
53. 512- Mitchell
54. 622- Angel’s Revenge
55. 820- Space Mutiny
56. 822- Overdrawn at the Memory Bank [Also still airs on Sci-Fi]
57. 1002- Girl in Goldboots [Also still airs on Sci-Fi]

A BEST BRAINS RELEASE
58. 1006- Boggy Creek II: And the Legend Continues

Here are the last intial 12 episodes run on Sci-Fi so those rights could be easy to obtain.
3 episodes released on VHS or DVD
2 episodes are public domain
59. 810- Giant Spider Invasion
60. 816- Prince of Space
61. 819- Invasion of the Neptune Men
62. 913- Quest of the Delta Knights
63. 1003- Merlin’s Shop of Mystical Wonder’s (Actually originally had rights struggles)
64. 1008- Final Justice
65. 1011- Horrors of Spider Island

Finally a freind of MST3K has always seemed to have been FVI. They let them release Cave Dwellers and Pod People so other rights may be easy to obtain.
Film Ventures International Movies
2 Rhino Released Movies (Cave Dwellers & Pod People)
66. 213- Godzilla vs. Sea Monster
67. 305- Stranded in Space
68. 322- Master Ninja I
69. 324- Master Ninja II
70. 401- Space Travellers
71. 403- City Limits
72. 405- Being from Another Planet

Take note. Minus the 7 season 1 episodes you have 65 easy to get rights episodes. Any AMC executives on this board?

Plus other titles that would probaly easy to get rights to.
73. 309- Daddy-O
74. 422- The Day the Earth Foze
75. 813- Jack Frost

Maybe a couple of MR. BIG's films and you'd have a easy replay schedule. All you have to do is buy the CC TV airing rights, Sci-Fi TV airing rights, get couple of Rhino releases and FVI rights and you have a real easy replay schedule. I think I am going to send this out to some cable network that could be intrested. (Much like Forrest did with Rhino).

[Torgo]

Van Hagar...You Rule! You really done you're homework!

[Phantom Engineer]

Great information Van Hagar, thanks.

[Ator]

Yes, you is da man. Maybe we'll see some more good Joel-era eps on DVD!

[Afgncaap5]

I'm more interested in the theory that AMC or TCM could see this list and put the show into a weekly showing. That'd rock.

[Phantom Engineer]

It would rock indeed but I'm not real optimistic about it. I just don't know if there's enough of a national market for it. I can only hope. Torgo needs to see more CC's.
That little punk. (But I kid Torgo).

[Afgncaap5]

After all, the CCs is where Torgo's namesake dwelled.

[Torgo]

Hey, I saw 15 of them. Enough to know who Torgo is.

One day when I see the rest, I shall become a man.

[Phantom Engineer]

You wish.

[Afgncaap5]

*The wishing song from 701 plays*

[Trash2000]

Couldn't Comedy Central theoretically show any of these public domain episodes right now? Cause if they could, it would make a great replacement for the movies they show from 3:00-5:00 eastern time every day.