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Post by majorjoe23 on Jan 10, 2019 10:06:57 GMT -5
Not sure what you mean about Rifftrax & Final Sacrifice. I just used the $10 Christmas bonus to buy it on New Year's Eve. I think they meant the MST3K version of Final Sacrifice, which had been available for sale on Rifftrax, and now is not.
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Post by ProjectedPaul on Jan 10, 2019 18:29:25 GMT -5
Just got my copy of the Shout Factory re-issue of Volume 9 (IX) DVD.
Licensing info:
Women of the Prehistoric Planet:
(C) 2018 Wade Williams, LLC
The Sinister Urge:
(C) 2018 Wade Williams, LLC
The Wild Rebels:
Under License from Crown International Pictures
The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies:
Under license from The Peter Rodgers Organization
Bonus materials:
Introduction by actress Irene Tsu for Women of the Prehistoric Planet
They Kill For Kicks: Making Wild Rebels
Introduction by actor Conrad Brooks for The Sinister Urge
Wood: Taming The Sinister Urge
Theatrical Trailer for Incredibly Strange Creatures
The new special documentaries for The Sinister Urge and Wild Rebels are produced by Ballyhoo Motion Pictures.
The introductions by Irene Tsu and Conrad Brooks are recycled from the old Rhino DVD release.
The new Sinister Urge bonus doc features Cinema Insomnia host Mr. Lobo.
The new Wild Rebels bonus doc features interviews with the film's director, William Grefe, as well as actor Steve Alaimo.
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Post by GodzFire on Jan 10, 2019 20:36:57 GMT -5
Just trying to make sure everything classic MST3K has been released.
Seriously though, what the hell is up with Quest Of The Delta Knights? They figured out Pumanman, why not this one? We know the director (James Dodson), the production companies (Ramsway Ltd., Metro Pictures Productions), and a crapload of distributors (below). Why not start asking around; ask Flashback or Payless Entertainment or Impact Video who they had to license through and who owned it; all three were fairly recent and should know. I just don't get it.
- Flashback Home Entertainment (2005) (Australia) (DVD) - Payless Entertainment (2007) (Australia) (DVD) - NCA Pictures (Brazil) (VHS) - CNR Film & Video (1994) (Netherlands) (VHS) (rental) - Prime Time Entertainment (1994) (Netherlands) (VHS) (retail) - RCV Home Entertainment (1994) (Netherlands) (VHS) - Impact Video (2013) (South Africa) (DVD) - Hemdale Home Video (1994) (USA) (VHS) - Plaza Entertainment (1999) (USA) (VHS)
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Post by Udvarnoky on Jan 10, 2019 21:06:10 GMT -5
I believe the owner of Delta Knights is Redge Mahaffey, its writer and producer. My guess is either he can't be tracked down, or he joins Susan and Wade in the category of lovably eccentric non-licensors. Somebody needs to get Jordan Fields on the horn and get the straight dope.
Incidentally, I consider Delta Knights a top tier episode, and I'm always baffled by folks who rank it as middling or worse. Oh well, more Archimedes blow combs for me.
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Post by Troy's Dad on Jan 11, 2019 12:01:32 GMT -5
Delta Knights is in my top 10 for sure. It hits the perfect balance of watchable, cheesy and incredibly riffable. There are so many characters that I love to hate in that movie, and so many attempts at humor that just fall flat. I also love Pearl in the theater and the whole mint giver bit. It's one of the handful of episodes I had recorded myself, so I've seen it a lot.
If Shout ever gets the rights sorted out, I'd love to see a special edition release a la Manos.
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Post by Udvarnoky on Jan 11, 2019 12:09:52 GMT -5
David Warner had a good attitude about MST3K when he briefly talked about Delta Knights in an interview with the AV Club, so I would love to see him participate in a featurette.
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Post by Troy's Dad on Jan 11, 2019 12:17:00 GMT -5
Warner playing two roles was the silliest most unnecessary choice. I thought maybe they were twin brothers, but it was just an Eddie Murphy situation. The reveal of Leonardo da Vinchi was so awful, I loved it.
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Post by timmy on Jan 11, 2019 19:18:51 GMT -5
David Warner had a good attitude about MST3K when he briefly talked about Delta Knights in an interview with the AV Club, so I would love to see him participate in a featurette. and i wonder if they did just in case (for a future release)
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Post by travis on Jan 12, 2019 13:39:08 GMT -5
Just trying to make sure everything classic MST3K has been released. Seriously though, what the hell is up with Quest Of The Delta Knights? They figured out Pumanman, why not this one? We know the director (James Dodson), the production companies (Ramsway Ltd., Metro Pictures Productions), and a crapload of distributors (below). Why not start asking around; ask Flashback or Payless Entertainment or Impact Video who they had to license through and who owned it; all three were fairly recent and should know. I just don't get it. - Flashback Home Entertainment (2005) (Australia) (DVD) - Payless Entertainment (2007) (Australia) (DVD) - NCA Pictures (Brazil) (VHS) - CNR Film & Video (1994) (Netherlands) (VHS) (rental) - Prime Time Entertainment (1994) (Netherlands) (VHS) (retail) - RCV Home Entertainment (1994) (Netherlands) (VHS) - Impact Video (2013) (South Africa) (DVD) - Hemdale Home Video (1994) (USA) (VHS) - Plaza Entertainment (1999) (USA) (VHS) I was blown away by the amount of international releases DELTA KNIGHTS has... whoever owns the international rights did a helluva job shopping it around. My feeling is there is an issue with the current U.S. rights holder, possibly a tangle somewhere in the chain that hasn't affected the international distribution rights. It could always be a Werewolf/Final Sacrifice situation, where the rights holder wants too much money. After all, that's why SOULTAKER is now OOP. I'm thinking it's more likely the former, seeing as the film has never received a DVD release in the U.S. It's baffling, since it was in regular rotation until the end of the SciFi run (granted, TV rights are often a different beast). Especially being a more recent direct-to-video film.
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Post by Udvarnoky on Jan 12, 2019 13:47:23 GMT -5
The Final Sacrifice being back in at least digital circulation (Volume XVII remains out of print) makes me hopeful that the Soultaker situation can change as well. It's not like the owners of Soultaker have licensed the film to another distributor. Ideally, Shout! would get the rights both to re-release the MST3K episode and the uncut film. I'd quite like a Blu-ray of the unriffed film, which has never been available in decent quality. They could throw in the episode as a bonus feature, as they did with The Bat People. Instead those dentists (?!) are just leaving money on the table, and Joe Estevez's finest performance in a vault.
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Post by GodzFire on Jan 14, 2019 0:10:37 GMT -5
I was blown away by the amount of international releases DELTA KNIGHTS has... whoever owns the international rights did a helluva job shopping it around. My feeling is there is an issue with the current U.S. rights holder, possibly a tangle somewhere in the chain that hasn't affected the international distribution rights. It could always be a Werewolf/Final Sacrifice situation, where the rights holder wants too much money. After all, that's why SOULTAKER is now OOP. I'm thinking it's more likely the former, seeing as the film has never received a DVD release in the U.S. It's baffling, since it was in regular rotation until the end of the SciFi run (granted, TV rights are often a different beast). Especially being a more recent direct-to-video film. But for 20 years? I have to believe Shout would have said if it was a money issue like they did with Hart/Nicoleson. Someone call up SHOUT!
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Post by Udvarnoky on Jan 14, 2019 8:58:14 GMT -5
I wonder if the reason we've had no word on a reprint of Volume XVII despite the evidence that the rights to Final Sacrifice have been sewn back up is because it would cut into the sales of the Lost and Found collection, which contains all the other episodes from that volume and Volume XIV.
This scenario is precisely why I thought the Lost and Found set was a weird idea when it was announced (singles seemed a better way to handle the orphaned episodes), although as an excuse for new Steve Vance artwork, I readily accept it.
Hopefully the next shuffle of classic episodes offered on Netflix will include The Final Sacrifice. It is obvious it would have been there on day one had the rights issue never cropped up.
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Post by tvsfrank on Jan 16, 2019 9:57:07 GMT -5
I wonder if the reason we've had no word on a reprint of Volume XVII despite the evidence that the rights to Final Sacrifice have been sewn back up is because it would cut into the sales of the Lost and Found collection, which contains all the other episodes from that volume and Volume XIV. This scenario is precisely why I thought the Lost and Found set was a weird idea when it was announced (singles seemed a better way to handle the orphaned episodes), although as an excuse for new Steve Vance artwork, I readily accept it. Hopefully the next shuffle of classic episodes offered on Netflix will include The Final Sacrifice. It is obvious it would have been there on day one had the rights issue never cropped up. To me, Lost and Found was basically saying “we are giving up” and we will probably never see reprints of those collections. Hopefully singles, then!
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Post by Ford Prefect on Jan 18, 2019 13:06:53 GMT -5
I wonder if the reason we've had no word on a reprint of Volume XVII despite the evidence that the rights to Final Sacrifice have been sewn back up is because it would cut into the sales of the Lost and Found collection, which contains all the other episodes from that volume and Volume XIV. This scenario is precisely why I thought the Lost and Found set was a weird idea when it was announced (singles seemed a better way to handle the orphaned episodes), although as an excuse for new Steve Vance artwork, I readily accept it. Hopefully the next shuffle of classic episodes offered on Netflix will include The Final Sacrifice. It is obvious it would have been there on day one had the rights issue never cropped up. To me, Lost and Found was basically saying “we are giving up” and we will probably never see reprints of those collections. Hopefully singles, then! Re-releasing an episode digitally is less complicated than another physical release. It's possible they have been able to secure the digital rights, but are still having trouble getting it out again for a new physical release. Depending on the new deal they have with the rights holder, it might have been more financially feasible to release the Lost and Found episodes as a new set, rather than try to get XVII back out again. I assume plans had already been set in motion for the Lost and Found collection before things started looking less bleak for Final Sacrifice. They would probably prefer to finish re-releasing the Rhino episodes before they consider whether or not a new run of XVII would be best, or if it would be possible to have Final Sacrifice as a returning favorite with the Paramount/Olive trilogy. It would be similar to how they included Mitchell and The Brain That Wouldn't Die with some previously unreleased episodes on the 25th Anniversary set.
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Post by travis on Jan 19, 2019 16:45:22 GMT -5
It's also possible (though not likely) that it's an oversight. Someone didn't update someone else about the episode being OOP.
Another possibility is that the digital/streaming rights could have been a separate deal from the physical media ones (maybe the digital rights extended out farther?.
I don't think Shout would have put out Lost and Found unless they were sure the rights holder to Final Sacrifice wouldn't budge.
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