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Post by ash2 on May 3, 2006 13:53:33 GMT -5
The Liberal media are saying it was the funniest thing to happen in politics since Dan Quayle misspelled Tomato and the conservatives are saying it was inappropriate and unfunny.
Most Major news stations ignored it. But it's spreading like wildfire on the internet.
Here's the facts (Some might be wrong, I've just guessing). AP sponsors a dinner for the White House press every year and the President and the first lady and everybody who's everybody in the republican party showed up this year including conservative judges and generals.
Stephen Colbert gets up and basically does his show for twenty minutes. For twenty minutes he goes off on Bush and get this the Crowd loves it. Bush just sits there and takes it, because what else can he really do? It's just jokes. I especially wonder if this is the first time he's heard jokes like this because it's well known he doesn't read papers or watch political shows.
No matter what your political leanings I think this is a reminder of what makes this country great. A country where someone can criticize the President's policies to his face and still have the President shake his hand afterwards.
Watching this has made me proud to be an American again, Something I have not felt in 2 or 3 years.
What did everyone else think?
JG
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Post by mummifiedstalin on May 3, 2006 14:27:12 GMT -5
This is the annual correspondents' dinner. Every year, they have a satirist of some kind do this. Colbert didn't do anything unusual.
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Post by Wild Rebel on May 3, 2006 14:43:10 GMT -5
This is the annual correspondents' dinner. Every year, they have a satirist of some kind do this. Colbert didn't do anything unusual. No, he didn't. But if you listen to the "Fox-perts", Colbert not only wasn't funny he was over the line to say any of that to the President. They forget of course to all of jokes Clinton had to sit through at these events. The difference being of course that Clinton's mistake in office didn't get anyone killed or caused people to watch their jobs being sent to other countries or drove gas prices through the roof.
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Post by ash2 on May 3, 2006 14:45:28 GMT -5
This is the annual correspondents' dinner. Every year, they have a satirist of some kind do this. Colbert didn't do anything unusual. Well, if that's true, which I'm sure it is, I've put my foot in my mouth a bit, but I think in a way that supports my point which is: my belief in the existence of free speech in America has been rejuvenated. This happens every year and Thank God we live in a country that still has free speech! You say it wasn't unsual. I say, how often do you see Bush listen to 20 minutes of criticizism? I think once a year is unusual. To paraphrase Red Dwarf's Rimmer "If I ate roast beef 12 times in my lifetime would you say I'm always eating Roast beef. No of course not you'd say it was a rare occurance." JG
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Post by KGB on May 3, 2006 15:15:53 GMT -5
This is the annual correspondents' dinner. Every year, they have a satirist of some kind do this. Colbert didn't do anything unusual. No, he didn't. But if you listen to the "Fox-perts", Colbert not only wasn't funny he was over the line to say any of that to the President. They forget of course to all of jokes Clinton had to sit through at these events. The difference being of course that Clinton's mistake in office didn't get anyone killed or caused people to watch their jobs being sent to other countries or drove gas prices through the roof. Clinton's mistakes didn't get people killed? I'd say there's a whole lot more he could have done to fight Islamist terrorism during his 8 years, but didn't, thus creating the conditions for 9/11. Bin Laden himself pointed to the withdrawal of forces from Somalia (under Clinton) as the main reason he believed America was nothing more than a paper tiger and wouldn't fight back if attacked. Basically, it was his administration's policy to just leave the Islamist problem for the next person to deal with. The CIA and FBI weren't able to share information about suspected terrorists, including the 9/11 perpetrators, because of the "wall" that Clinton hack Jamie Gorelick constructed. While we're talking about Clinton mistakes resulting in deaths let's not even bring up Waco. As for jobs lost and gas prices up, I guess the basic laws of supply and demand were somehow magically turned off during his term? Sir, please tell me what mistake George Bush made that led to higher gas prices. Just one. Gas would certainly be cheaper today if the Clinton administration had the guts to push through ANWR drilling, but they had to bow to the enivronmental kooks like vice-president Gore.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on May 3, 2006 15:21:36 GMT -5
No, he didn't. But if you listen to the "Fox-perts", Colbert not only wasn't funny he was over the line to say any of that to the President. They forget of course to all of jokes Clinton had to sit through at these events. The difference being of course that Clinton's mistake in office didn't get anyone killed or caused people to watch their jobs being sent to other countries or drove gas prices through the roof. Clinton's mistakes didn't get people killed? I'd say there's a whole lot more he could have done to fight Islamist terrorism during his 8 years, but didn't, thus creating the conditions for 9/11. Bin Laden himself pointed to the withdrawal of forces from Somalia (under Clinton) as the main reason he believed America was nothing more than a paper tiger and wouldn't fight back if attacked. Basically, it was his administration's policy to just leave the Islamist problem for the next person to deal with. The CIA and FBI weren't able to share information about suspected terrorists, including the 9/11 perpetrators, because of the "wall" that Clinton hack Jamie Gorelick constructed. While we're talking about Clinton mistakes resulting in deaths let's not even bring up Waco. As for jobs lost and gas prices up, I guess the basic laws of supply and demand were somehow magically turned off during his term? Sir, please tell me what mistake George Bush made that led to higher gas prices. Just one. Gas would certainly be cheaper today if the Clinton administration had the guts to push through ANWR drilling, but they had to bow to the enivronmental kooks like vice-president Gore. Anyone else remember Somalia?
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Post by Wild Rebel on May 3, 2006 15:23:13 GMT -5
Sir, please tell me what mistake George Bush made that led to higher gas prices. Just one. Invading Iraq took all of that oil off of the market...which is what they planned all along. And I'm not a "Sir". Check all of your facts like this? If Gore had been put into office like the people wanted, he'd have us at least halfway to being self-sufficent in energy and the Mid East could take it's oil and stick it. The rest of it I've answered here before and you're wrong.
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Post by ash2 on May 3, 2006 15:52:52 GMT -5
As for jobs lost and gas prices up, I guess the basic laws of supply and demand were somehow magically turned off during his term? Sir, please tell me what mistake George Bush made that led to higher gas prices. Just one. Gas would certainly be cheaper today if the Clinton administration had the guts to push through ANWR drilling, but they had to bow to the enivronmental kooks like vice-president Gore. So in your opinion the higher gas prices have nothing to do with the war in Iraq? JG
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Post by colemanfrancisfan on May 3, 2006 15:58:21 GMT -5
Where can I see the whole video of Colbert doing this? I missed it on C-SPAN.
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Post by Wild Rebel on May 3, 2006 16:09:50 GMT -5
Where can I see the whole video of Colbert doing this? I missed it on C-SPAN. Try here.
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Post by colemanfrancisfan on May 3, 2006 16:28:55 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
LOL, that was sweet as ice! Thanks WR!!
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Post by KGB on May 3, 2006 16:40:36 GMT -5
As for jobs lost and gas prices up, I guess the basic laws of supply and demand were somehow magically turned off during his term? Sir, please tell me what mistake George Bush made that led to higher gas prices. Just one. Gas would certainly be cheaper today if the Clinton administration had the guts to push through ANWR drilling, but they had to bow to the enivronmental kooks like vice-president Gore. So in your opinion the higher gas prices have nothing to do with the war in Iraq? JG Instability in Iraq doesn't help the price of oil, but it accounts for very little in the rise in cost. Very little. It's about a world economy that is booming (Don't even bother telling me that the economy under Bush has tanked. The facts won't support you.), where demand is outstripping supply. Period. If you want to see what the experts think, look here: "The growth over recent years in the consumption in commodities, driven by Chinese demand and the synchronized global recovery, has led to higher commodity prices across the board." Credit Suisse here: " Petroleum is scarce, perhaps even finite, in its supply. Technological change has helped us locate more of it, and pull it out of the ground where we might otherwise not be able to or where it would otherwise have been too costly. That's the primary reason why prices fell in the 1990s. OPEC's inability to sustain a cartel exacerbated that price decline. Price increases reflect expectations of future scarcity relative to demand and risk. That is the most powerful mechanism by which we learn both to conserve and to innovate.
and here:
"Global economic expansion is driving what the International Energy Agency says is the biggest increase in oil demand for 24 years.
There is higher than expected demand in industrialised countries and China's rapidly expanding economy has created a huge demand boost. " (Note even the left leaning BBC admits that Iraq has minimal impact on the price of oil.)
Can you show me any evidence that it's President Bush sending the price of oil up? Wild Rebel, if you really believe some socialist tripe by Al Gore that he would be able to force us to develop unprofitable products, then God bless ya. I don't buy it. In the meantime (ma'am) I'd still like you to show me how President Bush deliberately jacked up the world wide price of oil.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on May 3, 2006 17:53:37 GMT -5
Can I humbly request that all parties stop the smarmy tone in political discussion?
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Post by Mr. Atari on May 3, 2006 19:58:14 GMT -5
Can I humbly request that all parties stop the smarmy tone in political discussion? And if the humble request doesn't work, I'm happy to come back and aggressively demand it.
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Post by StreetDreamer83 on May 3, 2006 22:18:36 GMT -5
Hilarious.
Matt
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