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Post by gareny on Jan 19, 2012 19:25:34 GMT -5
So I've been thinking of posting this for a while. I'm certain that those more tenured than myself have noticed this sort of thing, but I wanted to see if I'm the only one who notices this stuff (i.e. - who else has no life). A good example of an obscure, missed detail: In "Girl in Gold Boots", when Mike is doing his imitation of Critter as his Busker in the London Tubes: Crow's fade in and out starts with a small fire, which gradually grows bigger. In the background during the fire flashbacks, we see Servo, who is wearing a little firefighter hat. Which I think is awesomeness.  I had a few others, but I wanted to toss this out and see if anyone else had other examples of tiny, possibly missed little things like this. Gare Edited for spelling. |
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Post by gareny on Jan 20, 2012 15:05:43 GMT -5
Another one that I only just noticed, even after having seen the episode numerous times:
Implied in the beginning of Soultaker, but possibly missed as there's riffing around it: Tonya Harding's boyfriend used to deal drugs with Dude. He says something like "I'm not into that anymore" when Dude talks to him about earning enough money to fix his car.
"Man, that guy's got a small face!"
Gare
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Post by gareny on Jan 23, 2012 15:23:00 GMT -5
I'm apparently posting to myself in this thread  That's ok though - I have nowhere else to discuss this stuff, except at home, and frankly, I'm tired of the kids just giving me blank stares all the time when I point this stuff out. This is a particularly good one, and it's obscure enough that I've never seen it mentioned anywhere: In "The Magic Voyage of Sinbad/Sadko/Torvol", when he's talking to the crowd (I think it's around the time that Crow says "..he's still fillerbustering!"), there's a bit of awesomeness: Take a look at that crowd: they aren't all real people! In like the second and maybe 4th row, those are paper-maiche dummies! Apparently they didn't have enough people handy to make an effective crowd scene (should've brought in some of the 130,000 extras from "Sword and the Dragon"), so they filled the audience with what are upon closer inspection, dummies. I mean, besides the already present contingent of actors. It appears that they're all hooked together too, like mounted on a board or something, as when one of them moves, they all do. Now *that's* obscure, baby! Gare |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jan 23, 2012 15:33:20 GMT -5
This is Rifftrax, not MST3k, but in "Watch Out for My Plant" (or whatever it's called) the street address of the house that the kid with the plant no one watches out for appears to be "1." Seems like there would have been a joke there playing off the patent unreality of that but you see the number so fleetingly i'm not sure the RT crew noticed it.
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Post by msmystie3000 on Jan 23, 2012 16:21:39 GMT -5
I'm apparently posting to myself in this thread That's ok though - I have nowhere else to discuss this stuff, except at home, and frankly, I'm tired of the kids just giving me blank stares all the time when I point this stuff out. This is a particularly good one, and it's obscure enough that I've never seen it mentioned anywhere: In "The Magic Voyage of Sinbad/Sadko/Torvol", when he's talking to the crowd (I think it's around the time that Crow says "..he's still fillerbustering!"), there's a bit of awesomeness: Take a look at that crowd: they aren't all real people! In like the second and maybe 4th row, those are paper-maiche dummies! Apparently they didn't have enough people handy to make an effective crowd scene (should've brought in some of the 130,000 extras from "Sword and the Dragon"), so they filled the audience with what are upon closer inspection, dummies. I mean, besides the already present contingent of actors. It appears that they're all hooked together too, like mounted on a board or something, as when one of them moves, they all do. Now *that's* obscure, baby! Gare WOW! Gotta look at THAT! |
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Post by gareny on Jan 23, 2012 18:00:32 GMT -5
I just checked it out again - on the YouTube version, you can first see it at about 27:24, just when the guys yell "Give us Barrabus!", and then it's shown again at about 28:08 when Crow is saying "He's a populist, you just can't stop him!".
"Sinbad wandered to the edge of the Enchanted Sea..."
"... and had a Magic BM."
Gare
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Post by gareny on Jan 23, 2012 18:09:04 GMT -5
This is Rifftrax, not MST3k, but in "Watch Out for My Plant" (or whatever it's called) the street address of the house that the kid with the plant no one watches out for appears to be "1." Seems like there would have been a joke there playing off the patent unreality of that but you see the number so fleetingly i'm not sure the RT crew noticed it. When I was growing up in New Jersey (the northern burbs, where it was all forest and hills), we were the first house on the block. we got to watch all of the other houses being built over the following years, and as kids, my brothers and I would wander around the houses after working hours to see what they would be like. Anyhoo, we were the first house, so our house number was: 1. Gare |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jan 23, 2012 18:27:42 GMT -5
This is Rifftrax, not MST3k, but in "Watch Out for My Plant" (or whatever it's called) the street address of the house that the kid with the plant no one watches out for appears to be "1." Seems like there would have been a joke there playing off the patent unreality of that but you see the number so fleetingly i'm not sure the RT crew noticed it. When I was growing up in New Jersey (the northern burbs, where it was all forest and hills), we were the first house on the block. we got to watch all of the other houses being built over the following years, and as kids, my brothers and I would wander around the houses after working hours to see what they would be like. Anyhoo, we were the first house, so our house number was: 1. Gare fascinating! well, as an old fiction professor i used to have liked to say, "just because it really happened doesn't necessarily mean it's believable." ;D |
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Post by msmystie3000 on Jan 23, 2012 19:38:55 GMT -5
I just checked it out again - on the YouTube version, you can first see it at about 27:24, just when the guys yell "Give us Barrabus!", and then it's shown again at about 28:08 when Crow is saying "He's a populist, you just can't stop him!". "Sinbad wandered to the edge of the Enchanted Sea..." "... and had a Magic BM." Gare AUGH! I saw it! Crappy grey dummies! |
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Post by gareny on Jan 26, 2012 12:35:53 GMT -5
There's another interesting one, in "Space Mutiny".
There's been some discussion here about how the Bellarian sub-plot (such as it is) was most likely done by a second unit. This is most evident in the fact that none of the main characters even talk about or interact with the Bellarians, and even when it seems like they do, it's in voice-overs when the characters who are speaking aren't actually shown on screen. The people who do interact with them (the Enforcers, mostly), are people that you don't see elsewhere in the movie. The only caveat to this, of course, is when Jennera meets Captain Santa Claus, but even that's pretty obviously done in post, as he's wearing different clothes, and I think even his beard is a bit different.
Anyhoo, with all of this discussion about second units and post-production, it made me think about something: as I've mentioned, I tend to listen to episodes at work via my headphones, and when Gristle McThornbody/GrandmaDaughter talk to Deep Freeze guy, it seems to me that at least part of that conversation was filmed in post.
I know that there's plenty of face-to-face conversation between them, but there are also scenes when you just see the person who is speaking. During those, there's a definite change in the ambient/background noise. This is most noticeable when listening with headphones (like some other dork we know) - when the scene shifts between Blast HardCheese/SpiderSkank and Roddy McDowell, there is a difference in the pitch of the background sounds. It's louder in the background for Bob Johnson/Doctor Lady. On my copy from YouTube, it seems to occur at about the 39:30 mark, when he offers them tea. Because doing so would be ironic.
Is it just me? Let me know.
Gare
Edited for spelling.
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Post by continosbuckle on Jan 26, 2012 20:12:08 GMT -5
Anyhoo, with all of this discussion about second units and post-production, it made me think about something: as I've mentioned, I tend to listen to episodes at work via my headphones, and when Gristle McThornbody/GrandmaDaughter talk to Deep Freeze guy, it seems to me that at least part of that conversation was filmed in post. I know that there's plenty of face-to-face conversation between them, but there are also scenes when you just see the person who is speaking. During those, there's a definite change in the ambient/background noise. This is most noticeable when listening with headphones (like some other dork we know) - when the scene shifts between Blast HardCheese/SpiderSkank and Roddy McDowell, there is a difference in the pitch of the background sounds. It's louder in the background for Bob Johnson/Doctor Lady. On my copy from YouTube, it seems to occur at about the 39:30 mark, when he offers them tea. Because doing so would be ironic. Is it just me? Let me know. Yeah, I made a post a long time ago about the Bellarian scenes and how they seemed to have been conceived after the rest of Space Mutiny had been filmed. I wondered what the original movie looked like before those superfluous scenes were put in. Anyway, perhaps they had a problem with the boom mike for one of the shots in the scene you reference, so they had to do ADR on those shots, whereas the opposite angle shots turned out fine. That would account for that disparity, but you're right in that it's really weird to do that for just half the dialogue of a scene. Presumably the same equipment was used for both shots. Maybe someone really botched their lines, or maybe they decided to change the lines. Who knows. I haven't listened to it on my own, but were there any shots where the doctor and Fridge and Grandma were all in the frame and speaking? Did it sound more like the doctor's shots, or the Fridge/Grandma shots? |
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Post by inlovewithcrow on Jan 27, 2012 6:48:10 GMT -5
good thread. Early in Mighty Jack, in "Paris" there's this obviously homemade road sign to, I think, Orly (the airport), and it's not spelled right, or the article is wrong or something (too lazy to go see again right now). The sign might as well say "THIS IS NOT REALLY FRANCE!" I always grin at it.
But fake people in the crowd, wow, what a good catch. I'll look for that next time I'm there.
I understand what you mean about people looking at you blankly when you want to discuss this stuff. Thank heavens for the board!
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Post by gareny on Jan 31, 2012 18:44:28 GMT -5
So this is pretty obscure.. not necessarily "missed" though, unless you pay attention to absolute, infinitesimal details like I do: In "Mitchell", when our.. ahem.. hero is posing as a chauffeur, and he picks up a nice old lady and her bags at the port ("You and I are going to rule the ghetto, young man!") - the ship that is right next to the car in this scene is called the "Kef Falcon". (Sadly, it didn't make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs). In any event, this ship had a short life; only 22 years. It was built in 1955 and was sent to the breakers in 1977. It was only named the "Kef Falcon" for about a year, from 1974-1975. So it just happened to be at the port near LA during that short time frame while this scene was filmed, and while it still had this name. Yes, I'm oddly interested in minutiae like this. I suppose it speaks to my odd fascination with Urban Exploration as well. Anyhoo, *that's* obscure too, baby! If you're remotely interested in it's short history, here's the link to the ship and it's life: www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1061800"My, my, my, my apartment." Gare |
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Post by ilmatto on Feb 1, 2012 6:14:19 GMT -5
I watched Sinbad (for the first time ever) on youtube just to find the papier-mache dummies after reading this thread. What a great find! I don't think I would have ever noticed it.
And another thing - I didn't realize that the riff "Give us Barabbas" ever appeared anywhere else other than the "Cheating" short.
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Post by Treadwell on Feb 1, 2012 12:16:22 GMT -5
There's another interesting one, in "Space Mutiny". During those, there's a definite change in the ambient/background noise. That's not necessarily evidence for the two people not being there at the same time. Ambient noise can sound different by simply pointing the microphone in another direction, as they would have when shooting reversals. |
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That's ok though - I have nowhere else to discuss this stuff, except at home, and frankly, I'm tired of the kids just giving me blank stares all the time when I point this stuff out. 
