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Post by brandonakaxerxes on Dec 5, 2012 14:53:00 GMT -5
Anyone think MST3K might get acknowledged?
Frankly, based on the promos, it looks like all they're gonna do is just highlight whatever current shows they have now, and nothing before 2008, or so.
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Post by notundercovercop32 on Dec 5, 2012 15:39:05 GMT -5
Seeing as they don't own the rights to the show, I sincerly doubt it.
Comedy Central didn't do anything special for MST on their 20th anniversary.
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Post by Mod City on Dec 5, 2012 16:35:26 GMT -5
I'd say that's a big no, and it's not a big deal. At least not to me. Comedy Central snubbing MST on their anniversary special was pretty insulting, however, seeing how the show went back to the start of the network and earned them some of their first national praise.
That being said, what would they have on a SyFy 20th anniversary special? I'm trying to think what their signature shows would have been in the last two decades other than MST3K. Other than Battlestar Galactica, I'm not coming up with much.
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Post by Torgo on Dec 5, 2012 17:27:29 GMT -5
I'd say that's a big no, and it's not a big deal. At least not to me. Comedy Central snubbing MST on their anniversary special was pretty insulting, however, seeing how the show went back to the start of the network and earned them some of their first national praise. That being said, what would they have on a SyFy 20th anniversary special? I'm trying to think what their signature shows would have been in the last two decades other than MST3K. Other than Battlesetar Galactica, I'm not coming up with much. Lots of Asylum film premieres. LOL. I guess there was Farscape. I haven't seen it but I heard it was good. And while technically it's an import, they do air the new Doctor Who. And Scare Tactics was fairly (ie not very) popular (ie for their network). |
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Post by Skyroniter on Dec 5, 2012 17:29:35 GMT -5
Lot's of the newer Corman productions!
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Post by ramasha007 on Dec 5, 2012 17:51:03 GMT -5
They have Ghost Hunters, that's been a pretty big hit for them. And....hmmmmm....yeah.
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Dec 5, 2012 18:01:36 GMT -5
...Comedy Central snubbing MST on their anniversary special was pretty insulting, however, seeing how the show went back to the start of the network and earned them some of their first national praise... Ironically -- if I remember right -- CC dropped MST3K just as South Park was starting to catch on. I watched South Park for a while, but they were pretty much beat for me after three or four seasons. Their pinnacle, to me, was the '96 Christmas episode starring Mr. Hankey The Magic Christmas Poo; after that they were pretty much beating it to death. I'm by no means a prude, but MST3K got far more quality laffs without the relentless reliance on toilet humor. Oh, and don't get me started about Jon Stewart taking over the Daily Show. I've always thought he was overrated, a self-serious buffoon pretending to be a journalist without irony. The only reason the Daily Show got big was because of their bits on the 2000 Presidential election -- the electoral equivalent of politicians whose faces are so easily caricatured that it makes even the most mediocre cartoonist look like a master. Anyone who thought Comedy Central got big because of South Park and Jon Stewart never saw the first seven seasons of MST3K.Still, I can't get too worked up about it. After all, I'm a Deadhead; I'm used to having spent nine or ten years (1978-87) seeing "my guys" not getting their due in the press (until the summer of '87, when the Dead's "In The Dark" album came out of nowhere and went platinum). |
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Post by Mod City on Dec 6, 2012 0:53:44 GMT -5
...Comedy Central snubbing MST on their anniversary special was pretty insulting, however, seeing how the show went back to the start of the network and earned them some of their first national praise... Ironically -- if I remember right -- CC dropped MST3K just as South Park was starting to catch on. I watched South Park for a while, but they were pretty much beat for me after three or four seasons. Their pinnacle, to me, was the '96 Christmas episode starring Mr. Hankey The Magic Christmas Poo; after that they were pretty much beating it to death. I'm by no means a prude, but MST3K got far more quality laffs without the relentless reliance on toilet humor. Oh, and don't get me started about Jon Stewart taking over the Daily Show. I've always thought he was overrated, a self-serious buffoon pretending to be a journalist without irony. The only reason the Daily Show got big was because of their bits on the 2000 Presidential election -- the electoral equivalent of politicians whose faces are so easily caricatured that it makes even the most mediocre cartoonist look like a master. Anyone who thought Comedy Central got big because of South Park and Jon Stewart never saw the first seven seasons of MST3K.Yup, South Park rose after MST was cut. I want to say South Park didn't start until after MST was done on Comedy Central, but they could have been on the network at the same time for a brief period. Politically Incorrect also came around at that time. If I remember right. Personally, I resented South Park greatly because of how big it was and how embraced it was by Comedy Central. It was amusing but certainly not nuanced. I think South Park earned its wings much later when they started going topical and the writing became much more clever. Can't say I dislike Jon Stewart, but maybe that's because he engrained himself on my brain by being on Short Attention Span Theater, which was often the lead-in for MST. I've still got VHS tapes with him and Patty Rosborough finishing up their show before the recorded MST episode starts. Good memories. But yeah, SyFy. They did do that Star Trek special edition back in the 90s when they re-aired the original series unedited with intros and insight by Shatner and Nimoy. One of only three times I've watched the network with any regularity - the others being BSG and MST. |
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Post by brandonakaxerxes on Dec 6, 2012 11:28:44 GMT -5
I like Jon Stewart. I think he's a very funny comedian (granted I'm more of a "Colbert Report" fan).
Jon Stewart also occasionally references MST3K on The Daily Show. I love that he still keeps the show from being totally forgotten from the network.
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Dec 6, 2012 15:45:16 GMT -5
Ironically -- if I remember right -- CC dropped MST3K just as South Park was starting to catch on. I watched South Park for a while, but they were pretty much beat for me after three or four seasons. Their pinnacle, to me, was the '96 Christmas episode starring Mr. Hankey The Magic Christmas Poo; after that they were pretty much beating it to death. I'm by no means a prude, but MST3K got far more quality laffs without the relentless reliance on toilet humor. Oh, and don't get me started about Jon Stewart taking over the Daily Show. I've always thought he was overrated, a self-serious buffoon pretending to be a journalist without irony. The only reason the Daily Show got big was because of their bits on the 2000 Presidential election -- the electoral equivalent of politicians whose faces are so easily caricatured that it makes even the most mediocre cartoonist look like a master. Anyone who thought Comedy Central got big because of South Park and Jon Stewart never saw the first seven seasons of MST3K. Granted, MST did their own share of sophomoric and toilet humor, but, conversely, out of all the episodes of South Park that I watched, I never saw a single gag that referenced Anne Sexton, Sylvia Plath, Isaac Asimov, Kurozawa, Truffaut, Dylan Thomas, Greek mythology, or German Expressionism. That alone made the quality of humor on MST a cut above, the fact that it was so multi-leveled and in order to really "get" a lot of the gags, you actually had to have at least a modicum of intellect. The humor on South Park pretty much had only one level to it -- the most crass and base level of juvenile potty humor. That's why I got tired of South Park after three or four seasons while, on the other hand, after being turned on to MST late in Season 2, I was devoted until the end, and still watch it today. |
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Post by Mod City on Dec 6, 2012 16:59:41 GMT -5
I'm really not trying to turn this into a South Park vs. MST3K thing. I don't think the shows are comparable, though not necessarily for the reasons you've cited. There are very few shows with which MST can be compared.
But now the more I think about it, looking at the lack of signature series for SyFy, maybe they will mention MST. It would earn them big points from a lot of people, I'm sure. I mean how many Megashark vs. Tiffany or whatever recaps can they show us?
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Post by Torgo on Dec 6, 2012 19:28:26 GMT -5
Last I heard anything from SyFy about the series was a huge middle finger to its fans, where someone high up questioned whether or not there was anybody who actually watched episodes in their entirety (obviously there are, he could just ask Shout Factory about that).
It doesn't sound like the channel holds the series in high esteem, so I wouldn't bet on it.
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Post by reaperg on Dec 7, 2012 13:22:35 GMT -5
Personally, I resented South Park greatly because of how big it was and how embraced it was by Comedy Central. It was amusing but certainly not nuanced. I think South Park earned its wings much later when they started going topical and the writing became much more clever. Granted, MST did their own share of sophomoric and toilet humor, but, conversely, out of all the episodes of South Park that I watched, I never saw a single gag that referenced Anne Sexton, Sylvia Plath, Isaac Asimov, Kurozawa, Truffaut, Dylan Thomas, Greek mythology, or German Expressionism. That alone made the quality of humor on MST a cut above, the fact that it was so multi-leveled and in order to really "get" a lot of the gags, you actually had to have at least a modicum of intellect. The humor on South Park pretty much had only one level to it -- the most crass and base level of juvenile potty humor. That's why I got tired of South Park after three or four seasons while, on the other hand, after being turned on to MST late in Season 2, I was devoted until the end, and still watch it today. You must not have seen "South Park" in the past decade. There are those who say it's *too* topical nowadays. While I'd argue that MST always went deeper than SP, there was a certain level of cleverness on SP from the start, and it's grown since those early days. And still a fair amount of toilet humor, for sure. |
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Post by crowschmo on Dec 7, 2012 17:11:04 GMT -5
They'd BETTER mention MST3K on their special, and they had CERTAINLY better mention Farscape. That show was far superior to the dull-as-watching-paint-dry and over exposed SG1; and BSG sucked on ice.
It always puzzles me how shows that have any kind of intelligence and nuance just fade away, and boring same-as-everything-else-out-there shows become so popular. Why do people want to watch the same sh*t over and over? It bugs me, man, it really bugs me.
Also: Farscape had the same problems as MST3K with continuity when the BRILLIANT Sci-Fi network decided to show repeats out of order. They didn't have rights issues with that show, so I don't know what the deal was with that. Sabotage! Conspiracy!
They want to just keep cranking out the same old cookie cutter formulaic crap, I guess.
All other sci-fi shows like SG1, BSG, and yes, even the old Star Trek series - which I used to enjoy - seem so bland by comparison. The characters had real emotions, (and the actors could ACT), they weren't wooden and cold and talking around conference tables for 45 minutes until the "action" finally started, and the good guys didn't always get it right, and the bad guys weren't just evil for evil's sake, they had some depth and reasons why they did the things they did.
I miss this frelling show.
Edit: Though the two leads, Ben Browder and Claudia Black, went on to star in the last couple of seasons of SG1, still loved em', but even THEY couldn't save that mess.
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Post by gorncaptain on Dec 7, 2012 19:12:56 GMT -5
www.syfy.com/syfy20MST is mentioned on the website, so maybe worth a look? I think it will be a hour long self congratulatory pat on the back, glossing over all the cool stuff they don't run anymore, and all the fandoms Bonnie Hammer has ticked off over the years. 
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