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Post by ds_36 on Mar 4, 2023 7:57:26 GMT -5
Joel is a master salesman/showman. While I dislike these giant pledge drives and as problematic as these two have been with the rewards I wouldn't be shocked if he manages to pull off another record breaking event in a year or two.
Just hopefully we'll get some stability with cast and crew for any future seasons.
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Post by tvsfrank on Mar 5, 2023 15:24:45 GMT -5
I don’t mind waiting. The main physical reward I want are the blu rats.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Mar 5, 2023 15:36:45 GMT -5
I just put out poison to get rid of my blu rats.
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Post by tvsfrank on Mar 5, 2023 19:45:56 GMT -5
That’s cruel.
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Post by BoB3K on Mar 6, 2023 11:57:45 GMT -5
No, he wants blu rats. For that you put out blu cheese.
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Post by floatinginspace82 on Mar 6, 2023 15:29:58 GMT -5
just watch out for the Blue Meanies, they mean business.
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Post by Megalon on Mar 6, 2023 16:03:49 GMT -5
just watch out for the Blue Meanies, they mean business. I was tempted to go there after BoB3k's post, but I wasn't sure a Beatles reference would land here. Glad to see I'm not the only one whose headspace still has a Yellow Submarine floating around inside it.
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Post by BoB3K on Mar 15, 2023 12:43:51 GMT -5
Was bored so...
I went over to the kickstarter page. Really not much going on there other than people asking and/or complaining about no rewards (and of course a few superfan trolls giving them a hard-time for it).
This means a few things to me --
- We've already discussed it, but I really don't see how they can ask for more money until they've finished the rewards of the last round.
- They definitely are out of money. again.
- I wonder if this has burned bridges with some more fans and if it will be reflected in the next whenever fund-raiser.
- I wonder if they got any new fans this time around. We're pretty sure they did from the Netflix thing. I think they even mentioned it in the 2nd KS how many new backers they had--which of course can be deceiving, it was like 3 years apart, many people could have just made had new/different ks accounts from their last time around. Oh also didn't they do some dumb/silly stretch goals that had to do with the number of backers, and weren't some backers openly discussing making multiple accounts to inflate the numbers?
It makes you wonder, first KS had ~48K backers (i was one of them), the 2nd KS had ~36K backers (i was not one) (but made the same money which is very interesting), what would the 3rd one have?
It would be interesting to know (but we probably never will) how many gizmoplex subscribers there were--you'd think around 36K. But were there more? Did they actually get any new paid for with cash not KS subscribers? And by any, I'm sure there were at least some, but was it a sizeable amount? And are they getting any now? I can't imagine many especially now that Season 13 is out to the public via Pluto (and honestly it was already out to anyone that wanted to and was okay with torrenting it).
One thing is for sure, they've essentially said no new stuff for now, and that season 14 is 'in it's early stages' I bet that more than anything is going to lose fans because that was kind of the whole spiel and hype around the gizmoplex--a new and CONTINUING stream of MST3K.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Mar 15, 2023 15:30:42 GMT -5
There were some fans posting about making multiple accounts, but if there were more than two dozen I would be pretty shocked.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Mar 15, 2023 15:39:47 GMT -5
In this fallow period, if I were Joel and team, I'd be posting updates as often as possible, even if I don't have much to actually update about.
Watch parties, too. Cheap, easy stuff to keep people engaged.
Hell, I'd cut a deal with Frank and Trace and host the Mads stuff on Gizmoplex. Mary Jo, too. Anything to keep engagement.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Mar 15, 2023 15:47:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I had a secret hope of old The Mads shows being shown in The Gizmoplex, along with Cinematic Titanic titles.
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Post by monkeypretzel on Mar 15, 2023 16:39:00 GMT -5
In this fallow period, if I were Joel and team, I'd be posting updates as often as possible, even if I don't have much to actually update about.
Watch parties, too. Cheap, easy stuff to keep people engaged.
Hell, I'd cut a deal with Frank and Trace and host the Mads stuff on Gizmoplex. Mary Jo, too. Anything to keep engagement.I'm not sure they even have the money to do those things at this point. They're probably in debt the same way they were after the two Netflix seasons. (I just found a new source on that, the Linked In account for the former Alternaversal CEO who left in March 2022. He was nice enough to detail what he did during his 3 1/2 year tenure.) Maybe the plan is to pull another May Surprise like in 2017 and announce another MST3K Live Tour to focus attention away from the lack of new content. But I agree, they're making a mistake not communicating something, anything, to the waiting fans. This was a problem the first Kickstarter, too. In my opinion they're repeating a lot of mistakes they shouldn't be repeating. And like I said on the Discourse forum, can they really afford to lose any of the current backers for whatever reason, even 5 or 10%?
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Post by kracker on Mar 17, 2023 10:50:22 GMT -5
Wait, what rewards are left??
Besides the Blu-rays which i wouldnt expect until at least end of summer. The season just ended less than a month ago. Also the last update mentioned those remaining rewards coming being the only new content on the Gizmoplex for the time being.
And speaking of, one of those said rewards is coming next Friday.
Per today's UPDATE, Next Friday is the Rifftrax live event on the Gizmoplex, they will be riffing 1986's Rad. It will feature live discussion and be hosted by Emily Marsh.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Mar 17, 2023 10:57:21 GMT -5
Good. Content. Engagement. Good.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Mar 17, 2023 11:33:30 GMT -5
Wait, what rewards are left?? Besides the Blu-rays which i wouldnt expect until at least end of summer. The season just ended less than a month ago. Also the last update mentioned those remaining rewards coming being the only new content on the Gizmoplex for the time being. And speaking of, one of those said rewards is coming next Friday. Per today's UPDATE, Next Friday is the Rifftrax live event on the Gizmoplex, they will be riffing 1986's Rad. It will feature live discussion and be hosted by Emily Marsh. I think you’ve got it a bit mixed up. RiffTrax is currently hosting a Kickstarter to riff Rad live in theaters in August. The update doesn’t say what they’ll be riffing next week, but I can say with certainty that it won’t be Rad.
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