Rhino- The Retards

[vanhagar3000]

Forrest said:

Okay, guys I went to Suncoast videp, and guess what I found? A bunch of B-movies, five or six of which were all on MST3K, and not yet released in its MST3K form by Rhino, and guess what? On the back of the case it had the Rhino logo on them, which means Rhino had the rights. Now, if they have the rights, why don't they release the damn MST3K epsiodes of them!!! Does anyone have a reason?

Giant Gila Monster, Slime People and a couple of others are the ones you are talking about right. We'll I think you answered your own question.

[vanhagar3000]

This list probably isnt' complete but it includes:
Slime People (which probably won't get released because it's season 1)
Giant Gila Monster (this is a great episode and is a real shame that it hasn't been sold)
Hercules and the captive Women

This is from IMDb.

[TomServo69]

I actually saw a pre-packed set of all the Herc movies that had been riffed, being sold as a set, and put out by Rhino. Why the hell don't they just release them in MST3K form with the un-riffed versions on there as well?
Hey, that's an idea, a Herc, MST3K, boxed set.

That would rule, even though I already have them all,

Servo

[TV's Cowboy]

Personally I think they are lazy but that's just my own little theory.

[Phantom Engineer]

Maybe it has something to do with BBI. Don't they have to give their approval?

[mightyjack]

Rights are a very funky thing. Through my music I've had to deal with this issue and it spins my brain sometimes.

Look at the mess they had with "Spider-Man" and still do!

These things can be very specific, for example. Rhino could hold the rights to distribute the picture as is. But don't have the right to edit or add things, or release altered versions such as those found in MST3K.

I don't know if this is the case, just saying, there could be more to this than we know.

[Alleged]

I think Mighty Jack is right - it's going to depend on the type of license Rhino holds. These things are negotiated very specifically.

[Afgncaap5]

Yes, there is more too it. Despite what the "spirit" of the public domain laws are, it's fantastic what legal issues can still revolve around them.

Also, Rhino just can't release every single B-Movie it has the rights to under every single possible permutation at a time. Considering that they've already got another 4-disc DVD set coming soon, I'd say that Rhino's actually working faster than I thought they would be as of a year ago.

Let's say they get the rights to a Hercules movie. Now, they might've already planned to release is on its own, release it as part of a Hercules Movie Collection Pack, and then a third time as a 2-Part Cult Classics DVD.

Now, if they have the rights to this thing, as well as four other MST3K episodes, it's just common business sense to play the MST3K card on the four other episodes that they might not have another market for. This way, they can easily save profits on that Hercules episode when they release it a year or two down the line after it's eaten up all of its potential monetary value without the added endorsement of the MST3K logo.

It's aggravating that they don't have 'em out yet and that they probably don't have immediate plans to release 'em, but who knows what the long term plans are?

[nightfalcawk]

I know, and the Joel episodes they released almost made me hate th CC era episodes. Luckily I gave them another chance with Gamera vs. Guiron.

[TomServo69]

Awww, I thought the Joel era eps that Rhino released were pretty good. I mean, Mitchell is good, Pod People is good, Cave Dwellers is so,so. That's just a few. They were mostly good though, even though I believe for sure that everyone is in agreeance that they could have released some better episodes. But we all have different favorite episodes so, they just released a good, spread-out, amount of episodes that encapsulated every season. And I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing with the new boxed sets but, with new fans coming every day, they've gotta up the output. Don't be suprised to see a fan's choice type set in the new future, hell, it seems almost unavoidable.

Just my take,

Servo

[Jack Burton]

Hey Rhino has given us a box set every four months for over the past year. I love a lot of the eps and since they are better quality I watch them more. The more I watch them the more I love them. While I'd love to have crawling eye, godzilla, santa claus, laserblast, etc out on DVD, I'm not going to miss out on the DVD's especially now that they are adding extas. The only way to get more eps out of Rhino is to support their old, new and upcoming MST releases. A bird in the hand they always say. AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T BUST ON HAMLET!