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Post by travis on Dec 21, 2019 7:38:33 GMT -5
travis and everyone else - should this become a stream-likelihood thread too? Asking related to the twitch marathon and, well, Shout is really good at distribution, including Digital. To be honest, I'm not at all interested in what's available streaming. Unless previously-unavailable episodes or specials were somehow exclusively released to streaming I don't see going through the effort. My interest is purely home video releases (yes, I'm a physical media die-hard!) and researching that kind of stuff. Looks like there have been developments in Susan Hart's suit against Shout Factory, BallyHoo Motion Pictures, and Daniel Griffin. www.courtlistener.com/docket/14661252/susan-nicholson-hofheinz-v-shout-factory-llc/Diet Kolos, you have a Pacer account. You were able to access the court case documents earlier this year. What do the most recent documents say? EDIT: From the summaries posted about this case on other legal sites, it appears that Susan Hart made a settlement in the case, filed and announced on September 24 about. This timeline lines up well with that rumor about the Hart films being licensed in late October on that Blu-ray forum site. I think this is a good sign Shout Factory took their favorable position to win the case as an opportunity make a deal with Hart. This is a very exciting development! Here's hoping hell has frozen over, cats and dogs are living together, and Susan has finally come to her senses!
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Post by travis on Dec 21, 2019 18:02:16 GMT -5
Ok, I've FINALLY updated the list. It's reorganized and polished up a bit.
Even though Shout announced in 2017 they probably wouldn't be doing more sets, clearly they have the desire to release more. Sources indicate that at least the Olive Films titles licensed from Paramount should become available in the near future (or are already available). Assuming Olive doesn't renew their license, I think those 3 titles are close enough to "LIKELY" as we're going to get with the remaining unreleased episodes.
All of the new developments with the Shout Factory/Susan Hart settlement and recent rumors are looking promising for the remainder AIP titles. I'd err on the side of caution and say they're still unlikely but the situation is definitely looking up.
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Post by Ford Prefect on Dec 27, 2019 18:40:06 GMT -5
travis and everyone else - should this become a stream-likelihood thread too? Asking related to the twitch marathon and, well, Shout is really good at distribution, including Digital. To be honest, I'm not at all interested in what's available streaming. Unless previously-unavailable episodes or specials were somehow exclusively released to streaming I don't see going through the effort. My interest is purely home video releases (yes, I'm a physical media die-hard!) and researching that kind of stuff. Looks like there have been developments in Susan Hart's suit against Shout Factory, BallyHoo Motion Pictures, and Daniel Griffin. www.courtlistener.com/docket/14661252/susan-nicholson-hofheinz-v-shout-factory-llc/Diet Kolos, you have a Pacer account. You were able to access the court case documents earlier this year. What do the most recent documents say? EDIT: From the summaries posted about this case on other legal sites, it appears that Susan Hart made a settlement in the case, filed and announced on September 24 about. This timeline lines up well with that rumor about the Hart films being licensed in late October on that Blu-ray forum site. I think this is a good sign Shout Factory took their favorable position to win the case as an opportunity make a deal with Hart. This is a very exciting development! Here's hoping hell has frozen over, cats and dogs are living together, and Susan has finally come to her senses! It's too bad you aren't interested in streaming. I'm very curious why Shout can still sell The Final Sacrifice through Amazon, VHX, & YouTube even though they can't sell it on DVD anymore.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Dec 28, 2019 9:40:50 GMT -5
If I had to guess, they probably think it wouldn’t be profitable enough to order production of more copies of the set right now, but it costs nothing to put it back up for sale digitally.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 14:23:39 GMT -5
Perhaps the home video and digital rights were separate deals, or they were able to negotiate the digital rights for a longer period.
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Post by JLH on Dec 29, 2019 17:22:37 GMT -5
Interesting that it's not included with streaming on Shout Factory TV (or on Twitch, where it's definitely one of the most requested episodes). Had they had the streaming rights to it still, Turkey Day '19 would have been 100% identical to Turkey Day '13 instead of merely 5/6ths the same.
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Post by jadenh on Dec 29, 2019 17:33:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that's odd how they couldn't stream Final Sacrifice. So, they instead went with Laserblast, one they played last year. Turkey Day this year was just really lame overall IMO.
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Post by sb5 on Feb 6, 2020 20:27:45 GMT -5
This isn’t really about a future MST3K episode release, though it’s probably guaranteeing that the episode will remain in print for awhile - Shout Factory just announced they’re releasing Danger: Diabolik on Blu Ray: www.shoutfactory.com/product/danger-diabolik?product_id=7366Actually kinda excited about this release - I think the movie is pretty entertaining on its own, and it’s one of a handful of films they did that will benefit for being HD, since it’s more colorful than the usual fare they did. Assuming they may include the episode as an extra.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 21:04:43 GMT -5
I hope hope hope that the Shout! BD includes both English dubs (the “international” dub which was used for the MST version as well as a U.S. version recorded in New York).
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Post by Diet Kolos on Feb 7, 2020 11:26:27 GMT -5
Updates on the Susan Hart v. Shout case.
Susan filed a 3rd Stipulation to Continue on 1/3/20. In it, she says that the long-form settlement was nearly finalized (consummated) on Dec 9, but Shout wanted a 2-year license on physical releases, and both parties need more time to negotiate that part. Both parties agree they want to come to terms and reach an agreement, and wish for a continuance to Feb 14th. Judge entered order on Jan 7th.
So this pretty much confirms it. Shout is PRECARIOUSLY close to cracking Susan.
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Post by travis on Feb 7, 2020 13:17:03 GMT -5
Updates on the Susan Hart v. Shout case. Susan filed a 3rd Stipulation to Continue on 1/3/20. In it, she says that the long-form settlement was nearly finalized (consummated) on Dec 9, but Shout wanted a 2-year license on physical releases, and both parties need more time to negotiate that part. Both parties agree they want to come to terms and reach an agreement, and wish for a continuance to Feb 14th. Judge entered order on Jan 7th. So this pretty much confirms it. Shout is PRECARIOUSLY close to cracking Susan. Wow! Thanks for the update, Diet Kolos! This is exciting news indeed.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Feb 8, 2020 12:47:23 GMT -5
Update. I knew I should've waited until today.... Both parties filed a FOURTH Mtn for Extension on 2/7/20. In it, they state that: As of this week, the material terms of the longform written agreement have been finalized and that the agreement is partially executed, but they need more time to finish execution and commence performance of the agreement. And request extension to March 13th.
So very close now...
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Post by foreign object on Feb 8, 2020 18:58:44 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the updates! So impressed with Shout for their diligence in this. That would leave us potentially with only 201 and 213 (for those of us lucky to have gotten Godzilla V Megalon), that won't be licensed. That, is IMPRESSIVE.
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Post by jocksinclair on Feb 8, 2020 22:16:35 GMT -5
I think it sounds likely that they will get the Hart titles, but it also sounds quite possible that it will only be available for a limited amount of time, like the Gamera set. So if you want it, and they announce it, don't wait too long!
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Post by travis on Feb 9, 2020 12:12:03 GMT -5
So glad to hear things are moving along, thanks again Diet Kolos! Do we know for sure if this agreement will be for both the regular and MSTied versions of the films? I think it sounds likely that they will get the Hart titles, but it also sounds quite possible that it will only be available for a limited amount of time, like the Gamera set. So if you want it, and they announce it, don't wait too long! Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking! Very likely the MST versions will only be available for a brief time ala the Gamera set (looking even more brief than that!). I'm tempted to pick up 2 sets if/when it comes out just for safe keeping.
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