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Post by SOL Stowaway on Nov 13, 2007 2:10:37 GMT -5
I'm gonna go ahead and find the silver lining in your post by saying that floor two of 110 equals the ahead and find the silver lining in your post by saying that floor two of 110 equals the capacity for great potential, and the posibility of tremendous improvement. You can say that...again? That was either complete nonsense or the smartest thing I've heard all day. Awesome. ...floor two of 110 equals the capacity for great potential, and the posibility of tremendous improvement... *subscribes to Cerrita's newsletter* You're blowin' my mind over here!
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Post by Godo on Nov 13, 2007 2:29:22 GMT -5
Just watched the second episode. I couldn't care less about the quality or the style of the animation or any bugs in the website. It's just not funny.
I have to admit, that I loved the irony of Servo's closing lines. Enough to make it my new sig until there's an improvement.
One thing I DO like: Servo's voice. I'm sure someone else has already pointed out the similarity to Josh's take on Servo. No someone give the boy something funny to say!
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Nov 13, 2007 3:32:10 GMT -5
It is a step up, but that's like one step up from the ground floor of the Sears Tower - it's not saying much, really. I'm gonna go ahead and find the silver lining in your post by saying that floor two of 110 equals the ahead and find the silver lining in your post by saying that floor two of 110 equals the capacity for great potential, and the posibility of tremendous improvement. I'm... wait, what?
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Post by Sandstorm on Nov 13, 2007 8:36:33 GMT -5
Just watched the second episode. I couldn't care less about the quality or the style of the animation or any bugs in the website. It's just not funny. I just watched the 2nd episode myself, and I have to agree... it's just not funny. Which is why I too, found Servo's words at the end quite fitting. It pretty much summed it all up for me.
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Post by KyrieEleison on Nov 13, 2007 9:17:10 GMT -5
That takes irony to a whole new level... it's almost Zen.
Actually, I'm enjoying these little shorts. I mean, I don't think they're Oscar material, but I don't think they're complete crap, either. Like I said elsewhere, I can't help it that I'm in love with Crow and Servo.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Nov 13, 2007 9:29:18 GMT -5
Just watched the second episode. I couldn't care less about the quality or the style of the animation or any bugs in the website. It's just not funny. I just watched the 2nd episode myself, and I have to agree... it's just not funny. Which is why I too, found Servo's words at the end quite fitting. It pretty much summed it all up for me. Testify brothers.
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Post by BoB3K on Nov 13, 2007 9:59:47 GMT -5
I think someone else said something similar already, but-- I think this little short was just fine....IF it would have been a cute little throw-away host segment nestled in the middle of a fully-riffed-apart cheezy old movie. But it wasn't. It was supposed to be the main event, and they just aren't that. They're little average-level throw-away segments that don't stand on there own. (IMHO-blah blah blah)
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Post by Sandstorm on Nov 13, 2007 10:52:08 GMT -5
I think someone else said something similar already, but-- I think this little short was just fine....IF it would have been a cute little throw-away host segment nestled in the middle of a fully-riffed-apart cheezy old movie. But it wasn't. (IMHO-blah blah blah) That really hits the nail on the head. I would have actually been ok with either of those two little segments, if they had been followed by a riff-session in the theater with an appropriately cheesy flick. Even a 10 minute portion of a cheesy flick would be cool. Jim & Co. can attempt to re-package this all they want... but if there's no riffing, then there's no MST3K. Please Jim, don't leave out the "T" of MST3K.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Nov 13, 2007 10:57:38 GMT -5
Jim & Co. can attempt to re-package this all they want... but if there's no riffing, then there's no MST3K. Please Jim, don't leave out the "T" of MST3K. To be fair, there's not much Mystery or Science in these animations either.
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Post by RAD on Nov 13, 2007 11:02:26 GMT -5
Don't worry guys! According to Shad, from the studio doing the new MST3K animations, everything should start coming together by episode 5. Just two more sub-par animations, and it will really start being funny!
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Post by Mr. Atari on Nov 13, 2007 12:40:51 GMT -5
Maybe the writer's strike is to blame.
Funny won't bring itself now, will it?
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Post by spriiings on Nov 13, 2007 14:45:45 GMT -5
From Shad (a.k.a. PUNY a.k.a. JIM MALLON)
"-Paul especially didn't want to put up "Reel Livin'" first but it was the only one done and everyone figured that if we waited until really good ones came along,..then who knows when the site would launch. All the MST3K guys have a DIY "show the warts and all" mentality that made the show so great in the first place. So...we went ahead and threw up the site as is, that animation, and then a quick store to help pay for hosting and stuff."
- I have a feeling that Shad's comments were completely AUTHORIZED by none other than Jim Mallon. (If not posted by Jim Mallon himself.) What to do if your all new MST3K.com website sucks? Why just tell the loyal fans that you KNEW it sucked too, BUT that the good stuff is coming SOON and we just posted the CRAP first because IT'S ALL WE HAD. I mean, c'mon, if "we waited until really good ones came along,..then who knows when the site would launch." (Shad/Mallons words).
Pathetic!
Well, we wouldn't want to wait until we actually had something "good," would we? Nah, let's just post any old crap on the ALL-NEW MST3K.com. After all, it's not like we are introducing a NEW MST3K WEBSITE or anything, right? Who cares, right? We don't, that's for sure. I'm sure the fans of MST3K don't actually have expectations of MST3K being funny or 'gasp' even good. Besides, if we wait until the good ones come along we might never launch the website (therein lies your problem, guys!) It might be weeks, months, years, before anyone around here at MST3K.com could post a "good" one. Nah, let's just post the crap we got.
Or as "BathTub" put it (you beat me to the punch…)
"Well putting up stuff you suspect to be below standards is going to be counter productive. It's not like there was a huge outside demand for a Nov 5th starting date. The time should have been taken to ensure that the first one was the best it could have been. First impressions count, especially in a situation like this where you have to overcome a lot of skepticism towards the project." – Credit to member "BathTub"
From Shad (a.k.a. PUNY a.k.a. JIM MALLON)
"Plus they have to be fairly easy to animate, Jim wants to keep the episodes coming despite no network $$."
Oh right, because he's dirt poor. I keep forgetting. It's not like he makes a ton of coin off the MST3K DVDs. In fact, isn't he about the ONLY ONE who makes money off the MST3K DVDs? (Seeing as how he screwed the rest of the cast – you know, the same rest of the cast who now loath him and who unanimously decided NOT to be involved in this all new MST3K money-making greedy venture (minus just about all of the MST3K)! Oh, that's right… silly me, they weren't ASKED to be a part of this new greedy venture. Maybe that's because Mr. Jim knew they would all collectively SPIT in his face!
Ah, isn't friendship Grand! The relationships that Jim cultivated throughout the years of MST3K with all of those PUNY and INSIGNIFICANT creators and contributors known as the cast and crew have really paid off. Why they're all back to support the MAN behind MST3K, right?
No? Hmm, well, maybe someone just forgot to mention to them that MST3K was back. I'm sure Jim will get someone on that right away – right after they get something "good" in the can and posted on the website. So Shad/Mallon, the reason you have NO NETWORK $$ is because you got NO NETWORK SHOW. I guess you missed that. What you do have is CRAP and quite frankly, CRAP IS CHEAP. (Tip: Don't spend a lot of money on your crap, Jim!)
And one more thing Shad/Jim (said in my best Columbo impression)…
Don't treat us fans as if we were stupid. Websites cost almost nothing these days ($1.99 and up for hosting). The only thing you have to pay for is for someone to animate your crappy little flash toons (and hopefully you're not paying much for that crap!) I'm sure your DVD sales (YES, THEY'RE ALL YOURS!!) will probably pay for that with plently left over! And that doesn't even include your all new MST3K.COM store sales which promote your ALL-NEW MST3K.COM crap!
(I know, I know… it's just until something "good" comes along!)
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Post by callipygias on Nov 13, 2007 15:17:39 GMT -5
Don't treat us fans as if we were stupid. Don't include me in that post. Shad: I hope we hear more from you, but I'm sure everyone understands if we don't.
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Post by samtaco on Nov 13, 2007 15:27:45 GMT -5
Don't treat us fans as if we were stupid. Don't include me in that post. Shad: I hope we hear more from you, but I'm sure everyone understands if we don't. Same here.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Nov 13, 2007 15:48:31 GMT -5
Geez spriiings, calm down before you blow a gasket! I somehow get the impression that you would not be a fan of the shorts even if they *were* better written.
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