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Post by vanhagar3000 on Jan 11, 2004 18:34:14 GMT -5
There are a few other shows I can watch over and still laugh, SCTV, Fawlty Towers The Simpsons and a few others but the list is short. MST will last. SCTV maybe, but not even Fawlty Tower and the Simpsons can compete with the staying power of MST3K. You watch the entire series of Fawlty Towers episodes that's only .7% of the time that MST3K has given us laughs. As for the Simpsons, I think most can agree they cooled off a couple of years ago. Although I'm glad they are showing some of the older episodes in my market again in syndication when they use only show newer ones from the newer middling to poor seasons. MST3K can go one forever, it's premise will never get tiring, thank you Joel Hodgson.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Jan 11, 2004 18:35:08 GMT -5
I can't think of a reality show I've ever watched. A few minutes here and there going through channels. And sitcoms oh crap! The promos are bad enough. I'm not going to sit through one.
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Post by losingmydignity on Jan 12, 2004 2:22:55 GMT -5
"The Prisoner" was pretty cool. It used to be on PBS but not for a long time. The Prisoner (3rd greates tv show every made, you know the 1st) was orginally aired on network television in the 60's. I'm 90% certain of this. Don't you wish we could go through a time as kinda of open as it kinda was then?
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Post by cornjob on Jan 12, 2004 2:33:32 GMT -5
1967 to be exact.So whats the second greatest show?
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Jan 12, 2004 7:32:04 GMT -5
1967 to be exact.So whats the second greatest show? THE GONG SHOW!!!!! (That's the name of it, right?) No, I kid. Maybe it's M*A*S*H or somethin'. Not anything on children's networks.
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Post by NewGirl731 on Jan 12, 2004 8:43:55 GMT -5
I watch Discover Channel (yes, I freely admit it), and there was a historical show on the Gladiators, and the narrators and speakers were all saying "How could anyone go watch these horrible things with people getting killed! And they went by the thousands!"
Yet the American public will watch by the millions as Simon destroys someone's hopes and dreams and self esteem - so who are the crueler people?
By the way - I also saw a Discovery Channel show on Atlantis, and they used Magic Voyage of Sinbad, and two Crash Corrigan Atlantis serials as historic popular images of Atlantis - someone in the editing booth was watching MST!
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Post by Poe33 on Jan 12, 2004 8:51:20 GMT -5
I watch Discover Channel (yes, I freely admit it), I used to LOVE Discovery and Learning Channel! Remember shows like CONNECTIONS and SECRET LIVES OF MACHINES? They were great! Now those channels too are all mean sprirted, cop chases, medical emergencies, commercials for weapons manufactureres and cheesy, sensationalized history shows. I loved the slow pace of the above-mentioned shows. The charm they had.
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Post by losingmydignity on Jan 12, 2004 20:22:16 GMT -5
And the second greatest tv show is.... It's Monty Python's Flying Ciiircus! I know some of you are gonna think I'm crazy. It's just goofy, bla, bla, but there is a lot of great satire there and it packs in a half hour more laughs than anything else except MST3K... Mash....ick...I hate sitcoms except The Honeymooners. 4th greatest show is Avengers...Diana Rigg period. I was in love with her for a long time.
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Post by cornjob on Jan 12, 2004 20:30:50 GMT -5
Good choice.At the end of each skit of Flying Circus I find myself saying what the hell was that all about!Thats what makes it so great.There humor was way ahead of its time.
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Jan 12, 2004 21:55:56 GMT -5
1. I LOVE Monty Python's Flying Circus! I saw the Holy Grail! "We are the band of knights who say. . . 'NI!'" 2. I like discovery channel and TLC and the like. Anyone see Mythbusters? That show is COOL.
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Post by cornjob on Jan 12, 2004 22:06:06 GMT -5
I love how that movie ends.Thats what you get for a drive-by slashing.Or would that be a horseback-by slashing?
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Post by Poe33 on Jan 12, 2004 22:48:41 GMT -5
The Three Stooges cracks me up. Beavis and Butthead crack me up. South Park cracks me up. Monty Python cracks me up. MST3K cracks me up. 95% of Everything else....does not crack me up. I went through a Beavis & Butthead stage. Jerky Boys (the tapes) crack me up. Odd Couple, Honeymooners, Monty Python, I LOVE LUCY and M*A*S*H Sounds like most of you would love my book!
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Jan 12, 2004 23:24:23 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I don't quite agree with the widely agreed upon ratio between sitcoms that exist and bad sitcoms.
Good sitcoms exist, I've seen 'em. More specifically, I've even seen good episodes of sitcoms that were otherwise bad.
The problem, however, is that no one watches the good sitcoms. There are so many bad ones in the qeue that most people who know what good tv is don't bother to watch for the good ones to show up. As a result, there are no intelligent people waiting to cast their much needed ratings when the good shows do show up.
I have no idea what my point is in saying this. There are certainly more bad shows than good, I totally agree with everyone there. And I also agree that networks are intentionally trying to dumb down the viewers (which is why I argue that American TV is "better" than Brittish TV. After all, a larger percentage of the United States is slavishly addicted to their televisions than in England, ergo the US hypno-beams must be the more highly advanced. The quality of the program doesn't really matter in the long run).
But hope isn't lost. I see at least one good show make it to the big networks every two years. The shows normally last two or more seasons, so I'm good. I generally have to settle for a really good drama in the face of far too many stinky comedies, but it's there if only briefly.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Jan 12, 2004 23:30:36 GMT -5
Just curious, what would consider some of the good sitcoms?
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Post by Rowsdower on Jan 13, 2004 9:36:45 GMT -5
then there was silence...
is that a trick question?
hmmm...Fawlty Towers was a sitcom...the greatest ever made. Probably the only half-decent one ever made as well.
American sitcom? I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Cheers as being a superior to most other sitcoms...I remember it being vaguely intelligent...but then I haven't seen Cheers since I was like 12 years old.
There are some great Beavis & Butt-head episodes...there are also a lot of really awful ones (almost all of the earlier ones where the social commentary hadn't made itself clear)...it was pretty soild by the end...perhaps too solid (they cancelled it).
Simpsons are usually bang on...but like B&B, the early episodes tanked and it was never 'perfect'...and now everyone is trying to jump ship at a 'respectable' juncture..."Oh you still watch that show...I stopped watching it when...blahblahblah.". Now, I don't watch it religiously, well, I don't watch anything religiously as I do not get MST3K (no sci-fi) or Monty Python (no BBC), but if I do happen upon a new episode I'll watch it. People say that it's not the same, but how could it be? Nothing lasts forever, and they probably made a good decision by pulling out all the stops and just going surreal. It does me that the show will eventually burn out, but like I said, it's inevitable.
I DOWNLOAD my MST3K... and I have most Monty Python stuff on VHS...
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