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Post by CBG on Nov 28, 2005 19:24:09 GMT -5
So what you guys are saying is that Rhino can care less about defective disks? I know about the last disk that they replaced (some took forever to get to the people), but I would hope that Rhino does something for this horrible transfer. If not...I guess I'll spend my money on VHS/DVD fan transfers. That's great, but the fan traders drop Rhino titles from their trading lists the minute Rhino announces the line-up, so... No (ligit) fan copies. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT believe in undercutting Rhino or The Brains, but it is a paradox. For most of mine, I plan on getting a VHS/DVD recorder, and copying my own VHS on to DVD; 'cept for the few I don't have...then Skyroniter gets my biz.
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Post by Nunyerbiz on Nov 28, 2005 22:31:20 GMT -5
I have Dead Talk Back and Monster A Go-Go coming from Netflix within a day or two. They are the two I haven't seen and I wanted to know if it was worth keeping Vol 8 on my x-mas list. If I'm happy with my Rhino VHS/traded fan copies/sci-fi eps that I recorded myself, I don't bother getting the box set. I've only have two so far and one was a gift. I'm curious to see how bad Dead Talk Back really is, as some people don't seem to be noticing any problems at all. I can deal with some artifacts here and there or whatever, as long as it doesn't distract from the overall viewing experience. I own virtually the whole MST3K on VHS library from Rhino along with the aforementioned two DVD sets and don't have anything to complain about yet.
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Post by Wild Rebel on Nov 29, 2005 13:16:44 GMT -5
I have Dead Talk Back and Monster A Go-Go coming from Netflix within a day or two.. You know...having to deal with use obsessed fans Rhino/AOL-Warner can laugh off... When "Dead Talk Back" comes and it's defective, raise holy hell with Netflix...then with any luck they'll give Rhino an earful about giving them defective stuff... Maybe THAT will finally get Rhino to clean up their act. I can dream, can't I?
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Post by CBG on Nov 29, 2005 14:05:30 GMT -5
Dream, baby, dream.
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Post by CBG on Dec 2, 2005 4:07:02 GMT -5
The hilarious thing is I have never got a faulty DVD from skyroniter, Castle Forrester or any other trader - but I'd gotten a ton of them from Rhino. Strange. Horray for the little guy! I could say the same about VHS back in the day. Traders are straight, because they know they have a rep to maintain if they want to keep trading. MSTies DO NOT like to get burned on tape trades, and your 'legit' traders won't put out anything but the best quality they can. I'm not gonna bad mouth Rhino, but there's something to be learned by that.
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Post by Nunyerbiz on Dec 2, 2005 13:36:00 GMT -5
Well, I just got done watching Dead Talk Back for the second time. First time was on a home DVD player, second time was on my laptop. I used a Rhino disc I rented via Netflix. The disc appeared to be in very good, but not mint condition. There were a few superficial scratches on the surface.
The episode does seem a little glitchy overall, but only for two very brief moments was it a distraction. The scene when Krasker is talking towards the beginning being the most obvious problem. Still, the problems appear and are gone within a few seconds. The end credits also seemed to have some slight issues.
Maybe I'm just not a stickler for these types of things or I just have lower standards... but this isn't something I would even complain about. In all honesty, I wouldn't have even given them a second thought if I hadn't read this thread beforehand. It was 4 or 5 seconds out of over 90 minutes.
I think Rhino probably should have put a disclaimer on the episode saying that there was some problems with the source tape, if that is what caused the issue. Overall, I think some are making the proverbial mountain from the mole hill. Granted, I have had no reasons to complain about Rhino in the past while some of you did have legitimate problems with other releases.
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Post by Nunyerbiz on Dec 2, 2005 19:53:03 GMT -5
Well, like I said before... I never had any complaints with anything from Rhino until now. I own approximately 40 Rhino MST releases on VHS and DVD and probably rented another 10. This would be my first product with any flaws. I had rented Killer Shrews from Netflix as well, but I have no idea as to what was missing as I had never seen the episode before.
Maybe if I had problems with other releases I'd feel differently. Still, out of about 50 releases that I've bought or rented I'm willing to overlook a shortcoming or two. Especially when one of the shortcomings is 4 seconds of slightly choppy footage that didn't cause me to miss a single riff.
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Post by mightyjack on Dec 2, 2005 21:35:51 GMT -5
I don't make a mountain out of a molehill. My complaints are valid and meaningful to me. Merlin and Chasers darkness issues, Shrews and the missing riff on the Home Ec short, set 8 is pretty sloppy all around. Rhino has a poor track record in regards to quality. Add in the short shrift on extras and the mountain created is by their own hand, not mine.
I guess I expect a company to have some integrity and work ethic when they're taking my money. If it was my name on these discs I'd be ashamed.
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Post by samtaco on Dec 2, 2005 21:58:25 GMT -5
a little off topic but have you seen the Ren and Stimpy DVDs? Man are they screwed up in every way!! There are tons of cuts and sped up on like all the eps!
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Post by Chuck on Dec 2, 2005 22:33:35 GMT -5
Ren, I haven't seen the Ren & Stempies (plural, you know).
I have the Rocky & Bullwinkle, and those are done VERY well.
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Post by Nunyerbiz on Dec 2, 2005 23:15:26 GMT -5
Merlin and Chasers darkness issues I've added these eps to my Netflix queue as now I'm curious. With the exception of renting Touch of Satan, I never bothered with Vol 5 because I have respectable copies that I recorded during the series run. Not trying to ruffle any feathers or anything... but I've been just about 100% satisfied with everything I've bought from Rhino so far.
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Post by Wild Rebel on Dec 3, 2005 9:19:58 GMT -5
Well, there are some episodes that were transfered correctly...not trimmed here and there... But as time goes on, those are getting to be more and more in the minority. And when Rhino had to go through all this stuff about replacing the Killer Shrews, logic would dictate that SOMEONE would have looked at how the episodes in the Volume 8 transfered at least once...even if it was just a half-assed attempt to avoid the same thing happening two sets in a row...
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Post by Blurryeye on Dec 3, 2005 12:03:38 GMT -5
And when Rhino had to go through all this stuff about replacing the Killer Shrews, logic would dictate that SOMEONE would have looked at how the episodes in the Volume 8 transfered at least once...even if it was just a half-assed attempt to avoid the same thing happening two sets in a row... That's what gets me. They just had a huge screw-up on the last volume set. Why didn't they check the discs on the next volume set? One preliminary viewing would have revealed the problem. It's not as if this is a mistake only a true fan would notice.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 5, 2005 18:18:27 GMT -5
Well, they're a big, busy corporate-run corporation. They haven't got time to worry about trifling piffle such as quality product.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Dec 5, 2005 22:18:52 GMT -5
I was browsing some DVDs at Amazon and found this consumer review for The Who - Tommy and Quadrophenia Live
"The folks at Rhino need some help too. My copy has a ton of glitches, like freezing whenever a new song starts, or switching to 2.1 from 5.1 on its own or doing things DVDs fresh out of the box shouldn't do. I'm hoping my copy is not endemic of Rhino's production standards. "
Looks like it's not just the MST sets.
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