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Post by Afgncaap5 on Dec 31, 2003 15:55:46 GMT -5
I've gotta admit, I don't know these "Sessions" of which you speak. Guess I've got some studying to do before I watch Tormented.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Dec 31, 2003 16:48:24 GMT -5
Well Afgncaap5, your profile doesn't state your age but I guess your a meer child, a youngster, an infink. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Post by Pete on Dec 31, 2003 17:34:59 GMT -5
I was alive for the tail end of the 70s so "Sessions" is sorta kinda familiar. Somewhere in the deepest, darkest part of my subconscious, back there with 'Solid Gold' and 'Sha Na Na'...
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Dec 31, 2003 17:40:30 GMT -5
I was alive for the tail end of the 70s so "Sessions" is sorta kinda familiar. Somewhere in the deepest, darkest part of my subconscious, back there with 'Solid Gold' and 'Sha Na Na'... Prey for brain damage that will block it out.
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Post by mightyjack on Dec 31, 2003 19:47:42 GMT -5
You know, but even the more modern references can be a challenge. For example,
In "Projected Man", when he's about to kill the guy with the giant eyebrows, one of the guys says "Smell the glove!" I had to think for a while, then the light went on and I had a good laugh.
In "Deadly Bees" Crow makes a crack about "The heat lamps at Rax". Are they even in business anymore? 10 years from now, a new generation of MSTies will hear that and go, WTH???
Some of those references will challenge you no matter what your age is.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Dec 31, 2003 20:19:29 GMT -5
True. "Smell the glove!". Is that Spinal Tap?
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Dec 31, 2003 22:17:35 GMT -5
Probably. The only other big glove things I can think of involve Michael Jackson and O J Simpson, and neither of those really sound right.
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Post by NewGirl731 on Jan 1, 2004 5:37:34 GMT -5
You know those mixed CD's and tapes you see advertised on TV? Well the father of those were the Sessions brand albums you could buy in the 70's. And the commercials always started with Sessions Presents! But the few I heard, that friends of mine actually bought were hilariously horrible - the sound sucked, and sometimes they sounded like they got someone other than the original artists to do the song, or the tempo is wrong. Very strange.
Speaking of the 70's, under my pile of MST eps, I do have a Puffapalooza still taped - HR Pufnstuf, Lidsville (drug reference of the 70's anyone?), The Bugaloos, Electra Woman and Dyna Girl, Land of the Lost, all well riffed on many MST eps - anyone out there remember watching those?
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Post by mightyjack on Jan 1, 2004 6:08:38 GMT -5
You got it, "Smell the Glove" was one of Spinal Taps album titles.
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Post by Esoteric on Jan 1, 2004 8:07:42 GMT -5
There are some people who are young (I'm 23 years old) who are nevertheless EXTREMELY educated about pop culture of 50's, 60's and 70's. That's why I loved the show so much when I was a child - I didn't always grasp the references (the "future of rock & roll" one, however - that was a no brainer, that's Landau on Springsteen after seeing him in Boston, 1974 - I'm a fan), but I went and learned about them. And I was always a hyper-intelligent, bookish kid with lots of recall ability: they would make lots of references to stuff from my young childhood (early 80's) that would make me think they were positively CLAIRVOYANT - because I remembered all that stuff too.
The point is, that perhaps people underestimate the culture-sensibilities of us younger MST3K fans. I for one have no Sci-Fi episodes, or even any Mike Nelson episodes that aren't available on DVD - I own every single Joel ep, because I grew up with them. And I get nearly every joke in every episode now. Sometimes I didn't get a joke until 7 years after I first heard it (you don't know how many times I've stumbled across something in pop culture that I FIRST heard from MST!), but I really get the most out of the show.
I seriously doubt there's a reference you could quiz me on that I wouldn't get - I draw most of my own cultural loves from the era the Brains grew up in (for example, I have 5000+ CDs from the 60's/70's/80's, so I catch EVERY SINGLE musical reference they make, period.)
Hey, nice to be here, too. This is my first post!
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Jan 1, 2004 8:20:51 GMT -5
And for a first post, I've got to say that it's a good one. I'd agree that there certainly are a lot of younger viewers who've got a surprising grasp on culture from before they were born. I'm probably not one of them, but it's amazing some of the stuff that my friends will laugh at and I'll be totally clueless about.
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Post by mightyjack on Jan 1, 2004 8:22:43 GMT -5
okay then, quick quiz...no google peaking. What are the guys referencing when they speak of the power of Matthew Star?
************************************* It does depend on the person. One memory of mine. My bro, sis and various other kids, were all outside on a sunny day playing and they sounded like they were having a blast!
I wanted to go out sooo bad, but there was this show on TV that had captivated me. The lead actor was so cool and you could tell his heart was breaking and the girl, man it might have been my first crush. I wanted to go out and play (I was like 8 years old) but this movie had its hooks in me.
My parents and aunts and uncles came home, saw me sitting there and wondered "Why are you watching Casablanca instead of playing outside? Isn't that a little over your head?"
That was the first sign I was going to be a serious Cinephile, I fell in love with the classic movies, all styles all types.
Perhaps MST was built for that kind of person, young or old. It's not that were better or smarter but we are drawn to things at a younger age that others might not be. It could be a broad love of music, or an interest in the socio/political scene, who knows. But for some reason instead of playing "Army man" with the neighborhood kids, we were listning to Charlie Parker.
Just wild speculation on my part. And welcome to the board BTW.
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Post by Esoteric on Jan 1, 2004 8:36:53 GMT -5
The Powers of Matthew Star? That's a dumb old TV series starring, crap, I think it's Lou Gosset Jr. and some kid who I can't name. I think. See, and that's a perfect example of the level at which a lot of this stuff registered for me as a child (My first episode was the Season Four premier, Space Travelers, at age 11, and I rapidly started taping them all off of midnight CC showings - still have ALL of those tapes and LOVE the commercials for stuff like "Sleepless In Seattle" and "Jurassic Park" you find in the breaks!). I had sort of picked lots of this stuff up by cultural osmosis (PERFECT TERM to describe it). For example, one of my all-time favorite running riffs was the mid-Season Four "Sessions" riffs (featured most spectacularly in those hilariously cliched beach scenes in Tormented and then riffed upon in the host segment), because as a 3/4/5-year-old sitting in front of the boob-tube, you ALWAYS saw ads for stuff like that.
And besides, everyone loves awful late 70's cheese. We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun...
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Jan 1, 2004 8:42:49 GMT -5
I like the high-culture references that pop up.
Like in season seven (I think it was Night Of The Blood Beast) when someone walks in with a lantern and they say something like, "Sorry, just looking for a righteous man!" That one always makes me burst into hysterics.
And in The Screaming Skull when the look at the pond and Servo says "Racacacax, coax, coax", or something, just like the frogs from that one ancient comedy.
That's the type of stuff that really proves that MST3K is written by fairly educated people, if you ask me. High culture and pop culture colliding perfectly.
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Post by mightyjack on Jan 1, 2004 8:44:00 GMT -5
Very good. Matthew Star, very obscure little show. Produced by Harve Bennett who brought us "Riding with Death" BTW.
Okay, here's another (for anyone) quickly now...
"Even Rod Steiger must die" Joel said it during the attack on NY, when the guy is locking up his shop during "Rocket Attack USA"
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