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Post by jjb3k on Aug 21, 2006 11:00:28 GMT -5
It's said that Jim has hard copies of all the episodes from KTMA to Season 10 (apparently, he's the source that Rhino goes to for their DVD transfers). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's the only one with the KTMA episodes. It's apparent that Joel has an affinity for the early years, so some folks theorize that he might have copies of the episodes too, including the missing four.
I highly doubt Jim would ever consider throwing out the old episodes he has - if he owns all the master copies, then there'd be a lot of disappointed fans if he trashed all of the KTMA episodes. It'd essentially be erasing them from existence, and Jim doesn't strike me as the type of person to do that. The Brains knew that they got better as the years went on, and most of them didn't like the early years much, but I don't think they'd ever get that drastic.
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Post by ds_36 on Aug 21, 2006 21:10:28 GMT -5
I've been in the mindset that it's been determined that Jim Mallon is the only possessor of K00-K03 on the entire planet. But I guess that behooves (God, I hate that word; I thought I'd never use that word, damn) me to ask this question: do we actually know for a fact that Jim Mallon has the KTMA master tapes? I don't know if it's necessarily known that he does have them, but I'm relativly sure that he has actually said he has them at some point. Anyway DVDs have been released from all seasons (excluding KTMA), high qualty clips from KTMA episodes have been released (even on DAP, I know K05 has a perfect quality theme song). All of this does come from somewhere, meaning that even if Mallon doesn't personally own the "hard copies" somewhere, somebody does. And I'm sorry, but I really doubt if he'd throw the episodes out just because they're old and low quality. Does a parent throw out their child's artwork from kindergarten? Even in the small chance he threw them out, that means somebody should've picked them up from his garbage
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Post by ds_36 on Aug 21, 2006 21:13:27 GMT -5
It's apparent that Joel has an affinity for the early years, so some folks theorize that he might have copies of the episodes too, including the missing four. Without him admitting it, I wouldn't be positive that he does have the missing episodes. But it does seem pretty likely, from how he's talked about them. I would say that it is very likely that he does have the pilot, since he basically did everythink for it. The rest of the KTMA episodes he did a bit less on, but still they're his "children" he'd probably love them and want to keep them forever. Honestly, I doubt if only one person has the episodes, I think it's fairly likely that all three actors have copies of episodes (at least they all would probably keep their favorite few episodes).
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Post by travis on Aug 22, 2006 14:29:14 GMT -5
Does anyone know what format the MST3k masters are stored on? I think it's some sort of digi-analog tape.
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Post by Skyroniter on Aug 22, 2006 14:53:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know what format the MST3k masters are stored on? I think it's some sort of digi-analog tape. Season 7 is stored on d2 masters. Here is the definition: "D2 is a composite video digital recording format that uses data conforming to SMPTE 244M and records on 19mm (3/4”) magnetic tape. (Often used incorrectly to indicate composite digital video.)" I picked up four of my masters from that season from a guy working at the video production facility.
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Post by mrtorso on Aug 22, 2006 22:12:46 GMT -5
So looking at the wiki entry for KTMA they moved to another facility after one of the buyouts/change overs. It looks like it hasn't changed buildings since then, I have been in tv studio archives before, where they have wall to wall tapes. There had to be copies of the tapes for broadcast. On the scrapbook tape you see that MST aired a couple of times a week. Its not like Jim or whoever would bring a tape from home and broadcast it then take it home. So they might have copies in thier archive. An enterprising Mistie needs to get over there get a job as a janitor (you know, just polishing switches and paying your way) find the archive, grab the tapes and RUN!!! So simple!!! --Ian
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Post by ds_36 on Aug 22, 2006 22:52:48 GMT -5
An enterprising Mistie needs to get over there get a job as a janitor (you know, just polishing switches and paying your way) find the archive, grab the tapes and RUN!!! yeah, so anybody live nearby who could get a job there? Or any students looking for an internship? I interned for a production company a while ago, I did manage to "borrow" a few things like that, nothing valueable though. Really, we probably could get access to their archive by making up some type of school project where we're researching the KTMA days and it's early programming anybody want to join?
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Post by XerxesTheCat on Aug 23, 2006 21:19:55 GMT -5
I thought BBI was "closed" for tours since all it is now is a comapny for seelling merchandise and DVDs.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Aug 23, 2006 21:40:02 GMT -5
I thought BBI was "closed" for tours since all it is now is a comapny for seelling merchandise and DVDs. I believe they're talking about the KTMA studio, not BBI. Stll, a flight of fancy but harmless to dream about.
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Post by XerxesTheCat on Aug 24, 2006 1:05:56 GMT -5
I believe they're talking about the KTMA studio, not BBI. Stll, a flight of fancy but harmless to dream about. That'd be pretty far longshot. Since, KTMA isn't "KTMA" anymore. It's call letters are different now, and is a WB affialate station (hell, it's probably become a CW station now). The odds of them keeping anything remotely KTMA-related is low. Why, my local UPN station (now a CW station), KSTW had to ask viewers for tapes of recorded stuff from over the years for theior 10th anniversary show, as nobody in the studio had much of anything in their archives (that might explain why Rosco T. Racoon is rarely highlighted on KSTW retrospectives, cause they don't have the original tapes).
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Post by travis on Aug 24, 2006 7:13:01 GMT -5
Does anyone know what format the MST3k masters are stored on? I think it's some sort of digi-analog tape. Season 7 is stored on d2 masters. Here is the definition: "D2 is a composite video digital recording format that uses data conforming to SMPTE 244M and records on 19mm (3/4”) magnetic tape. (Often used incorrectly to indicate composite digital video.)" I picked up four of my masters from that season from a guy working at the video production facility. Cool, thanks for the info!
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Post by ds_36 on Aug 25, 2006 16:52:35 GMT -5
The odds of them keeping anything remotely KTMA-related is low. Really without asking somebody something everything is just speculation. Who knows what they would or wouldn't save, and everything being done in house can eaisly be used as an argument for either saving or not saving the tapes. Anyway, they have found other things that were lost for a long time. Like the Gilligan's Island pilot (ok, I don't have any clue how they "found" that, I just remember the heavy advertising TBS did for it). And all of those Beatles things...so wait a few more decades and maybe something will happen then - or maybe the whole thing will simply fade into obsecurity.
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Post by ashkenaz on Aug 30, 2006 19:10:21 GMT -5
As long as there are still fans, the tapes will be found one day. I have hope lol.
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