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Post by Captain Hygiene on Apr 21, 2006 19:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by spacechief on Apr 22, 2006 2:26:53 GMT -5
Somebody told, Rick Berman was so stupid, and I did not believe them, but now I believe them. - Strong Bad Sigh, I really would hate to see this great a legacy ruined. Oh man..did Strong Bad actually say that? I haven't been to the HSR site in so long. I need to have a reunion. Actually it's just a paraphrase of Strong Bad. But I'm sure he believes Berman is stupid as well.
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Post by spacechief on Apr 22, 2006 2:29:58 GMT -5
Oh I'm sorry ;D ;D Woohooo!!!! They're making a new prequel to Star Trek featuring two actors besides Nimoy and Shatner playing Spock and Kirk. I am a Trekkie and I am rejoycing!
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 23, 2006 22:54:23 GMT -5
As much as you may hate or love either actor, only William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy can play Kirk and Spock. Anyone else would fail.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Apr 23, 2006 22:58:55 GMT -5
**NERD ALERT** I had actually read somewhere that the leading candidate for the 11th Star Trek movie (if it ever went into production) would be "post-Enterprise", "Pre-Original Series" and focus on the Romulan War, formation of the United Federation of Planets and the origins of the "Neutral Zone" Did anyone else read this....if done right, this would be a kickass movie. I will see if I can find a link...may just be internet rumor mill too...I will check I'm a casual fan, but still a fan. I'd see this. But what kind of draw would a movie without regular characters have for a big audience?
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Post by Don Quixote on Apr 23, 2006 23:05:44 GMT -5
**NERD ALERT** I had actually read somewhere that the leading candidate for the 11th Star Trek movie (if it ever went into production) would be "post-Enterprise", "Pre-Original Series" and focus on the Romulan War, formation of the United Federation of Planets and the origins of the "Neutral Zone" Did anyone else read this....if done right, this would be a kickass movie. I will see if I can find a link...may just be internet rumor mill too...I will check I'm a casual fan, but still a fan. I'd see this. But what kind of draw would a movie without regular characters have for a big audience? When I used to frequent startrek.com's message boards, I would always support this as a movie option. It would be cool to see the Romulan wars, plus there's no need to show ANY regular characters if you don't want to.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Apr 23, 2006 23:11:55 GMT -5
I'm a casual fan, but still a fan. I'd see this. But what kind of draw would a movie without regular characters have for a big audience? When I used to frequent startrek.com's message boards, I would always support this as a movie option. It would be cool to see the Romulan wars, plus there's no need to show ANY regular characters if you don't want to. Yeah, but that's not my point. Would it be marketable? See, I'd personally like a movie detailing the entire elfin history of Middle Earth, but no one would go see it.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Apr 23, 2006 23:18:13 GMT -5
I think that you could make, say, a certain battle within the Romulan War interesting. Make it a pivotal fight.
The trouble is that you run a risk by basing a movie in the world of a TV show without using any of the normal actors from that show. I'd be more likely to see this if this was another Next Generation movie, for instance (regardless of how Data's departure might impact things). I'd be slightly less likely, but still willing, to see a classic Star Trek movie with Shatner and Nimoy. I'd give a DS9, Voyager or Enterprise movie a whirl as well.
But without any of the "real" actors, I'm only about as enthused for this as I would be for any generic sci-fi movie.
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Post by spacechief on Apr 24, 2006 1:34:28 GMT -5
I've always thought that Star Trek should either A) Do a follow up on the Voyager "Species 8472" story or B) Have a Dominion vs. Borg movie. You know, 7,000 cubes vs. 200,000 Jem-Hadar fighters, with the whole Alpha Quadrant inbetween. That would rock.
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Post by Wild Rebel on Apr 24, 2006 7:38:15 GMT -5
I hate to admit that it took me over the weekend to think of this but....
How can they even think of doing this without McCoy? The "heart" part of the trilogy (Spock being the mind and Kirk being the Spirit/Ego) that made this all work for so many years.
Leaving Bones out of this only proves that Berman and the current regime at Paramount never had or will have a flapjacksing clue about what makes Star Trek and makes it work.
And if they would say because they're going to have Shatner and Nimoy show up in a prologue or end bit (as though they were reminicing) and Kelley is dead....then it just shows you how dumb they are because there's a simple solution to that....
And if you think I'm going to write it out here for them to use for free, you must be kidding.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Apr 24, 2006 14:33:43 GMT -5
I've always thought that Star Trek should either A) Do a follow up on the Voyager "Species 8472" story or B) Have a Dominion vs. Borg movie. You know, 7,000 cubes vs. 200,000 Jem-Hadar fighters, with the whole Alpha Quadrant inbetween. That would rock. To be honest, I don't want another Borg movie. I absolutely loved First Contact, and having the Borg as the villain(s) of a movie again might make them seem less monstrous than they are. Now the Dominion or Species 8472....those could be done. However, one of the great things about Species 8472 was that it was used so little that the race manages to stay mysterious. A movie runs the risk of them losing their mystique. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, mind you, but I'd want them to be cautious. The Dominion would be great, but I think you'd have to make it a DS9 movie out of necessity. Not that that's a bad thing, of course. I'm just saying that as a fan who's only seen a handfull of DS9 episodes, I think the feel would be wrong if you had a non-DS9 cast. But again, good ideas all of them. My dream Star Trek movie would have Q in it. But I think too many people dislike Q for a movie like that to be financially rewarding.
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Post by LetGoOfItSlappy on Apr 24, 2006 15:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by Wild Rebel on Apr 24, 2006 16:21:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry....IMHO, the same people who don't understand what made the show great are some of the same people writing the Official Website. Fleeting meetings could work without rewriting what we know about these characters. The Trek books did this once in a line of teen books about the TNG officers in the Academy - Crusher briefly meets Data who helps her with an experiment. But that's as far as the discussion went and he was gone from the story. This movie makes it sound like they meet and become friends and it's very hard to imagine that they wouldn't have stayed in touch until they were assigned together - and that they'd know much more about each other. And that Spock would be much farther along in regards to accepting his half-human part than he was during the series.
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Post by LetGoOfItSlappy on Apr 24, 2006 16:53:38 GMT -5
I cannot disagree with ya WR. I would much prefer a new Trek dealing with something complete different crew and ship-wise. It was part of the reason I was hopeful for the Romulan War era idea that was out there.
Don't F with the Original Series characters that we know so well....and besides....WHO do you get to play a young Kirk?
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Apr 24, 2006 18:51:37 GMT -5
There's no one who can play a young Kirk or Spock in my mind. So I'm just going to decide to be happy with whoever they get as actors.
I don't have high hopes for this movie, but I'll give it a shot. It might not be a well-deserved shot, but it can't be as bad as forcing myself to sit through the movie with the whales again.
Yes, I know it's a well loved, oft-revered Star Trek movie. But please, stop showing this one on TV!
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