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Post by mrtorso on Dec 30, 2007 3:54:16 GMT -5
If any kind of retail establishment is taking days off other than Christmas day then they just don't get it.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Dec 30, 2007 4:56:11 GMT -5
I think you guys just need to relax. Everything will be fine. This is their first release, and there may be complications. EZTakes is, presumably, professional and experienced and will (or rather, they had better) make sure everything gets where it needs to go.
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Post by Shep on Dec 30, 2007 7:44:57 GMT -5
If any kind of retail establishment is taking days off other than Christmas day then they just don't get it. Get what? America--the land of little vacation and working yourself to death so we can feed thoughtless consumerism? LOL Sorry, just a little side rant on this country's f'd up values.
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Post by ciredark on Dec 30, 2007 8:59:42 GMT -5
If any kind of retail establishment is taking days off other than Christmas day then they just don't get it. Get what? America--the land of little vacation and working yourself to death so we can feed thoughtless consumerism? LOL Sorry, just a little side rant on this country's f'd up values I blame Edward Bernays. Nephew of Sigmund Freud, Bernays was pivotal in the role of creating the very concept of "Public Relations" and used his uncles writings to figure out how to drive the economy by attaching an emotional response to a product to drive consumerism. It's all his fault.
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Lee Van Cleef
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I hope it never stops being the 70's or we'll all be in trouble!
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Post by Lee Van Cleef on Dec 30, 2007 21:26:09 GMT -5
I didn't mean that companies are closing for the holidays. I meant that alot of people who have vacation days left have to take them in December cause they don't carry over into the next year. You usually get the choice of a vacation or a vacayion payout. I know I always take the days off. At least thats how it is where I work.
I work at a factory that makes plastic milk bottles and were swamped with orders for more than 20 trailer loads of bottles every day during any holiday week. We run 24/7 normally. We can't afford to shut down any longer than 24 hours for a holiday. Were running New Year's eve and we ran Christmas Eve. One thing that is always in demand is Milk. I'm the guy who keeps the inventory and takes the orders and sets up the trailer shipments every day, so I never get days off.
But the main reason I'm posting again is I forgot to throw my order # into the fray. It is #19645.
I hope CT is already hard at work on there next movie. It would be awesome if we could get the equivalent of a typical MST3K season (at least 13 episodes....but I think all of us fans would 'pick up the back-nine' for them to make it a 20 + episode year). Wouldn't that be insane? I don't mean to jump too far ahead, but its a nice thought which isn't all that far-fetched.
And hey, I like that part in the trailer where the girl is wind-balancing on that rocky hill as if she's surfing or something and then suddenly becomes a giant rag doll, violently plummeting all the way down the hill. I think the scene is forever going to be etched in my mind when I recall the movie.
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Post by pslowner on Dec 31, 2007 8:56:39 GMT -5
I would be tickled with between 12-20 episodes a year!
I wonder how they plan on doing promos for the site, getting the word out and marketing. They could not really do much until they had a product to sell, so I imagine once they have their first downloadable episode on the site, they will be doing interviews and promotions.
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Post by GersonK on Dec 31, 2007 11:01:35 GMT -5
I would be tickled with between 12-20 episodes a year! I remember reading that they'd gotten rights to 12 movies total for '07 and '08 on a reliable source. I can still find this number floating around the web from sources other than myself - but I can't find the original! Was it something retracted on mst3kinfo or the CT site?
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Post by Cubby on Dec 31, 2007 11:33:50 GMT -5
Some kid is in his basement now burning DVDs on the computer as fast as he can. At the risk of being deemed 'unrelaxed,' that is sort of what it seems to be, isn't it? Now, I can be a patient man.* However, I can't help but find fault with the way this is playing out. According to this, it's going to take two weeks for even the first orders to get out the door? Is it a one-person operation, or is there a bulk-mail discount that kicks in once you're moving 10,000** pieces at one shot? In their FAQ, they proclaim, "When you order a DVD from DVD Wagon, our system automatically burns your purchase to a recordable DVD and then ships it to you via regular mail. That way, there are no inventory carrying costs (which would have to be passed onto you) and all of our titles are always in stock." And by "automatically" they mean "two weeks." I find myself being reminded of the eBay sellers who only ship their items on Mondays that fall on odd-numbered dates, regardless of when the auction ended even though they demand payment within 48 hours. (Not a direct analogy, mind you) We're back to Sky's basement-dweller. The disclaimer doesn't ease my consumer mind, "The DVD was just authored and we're making discs as fast as we can." Why take orders on something you aren't anywhere near ready to ship? It's a semantic nit to pick, but I think the word these professionals are looking for is "pre-order." That word is prevalent throughout the business community for an item that is not yet available, but close enough. I really believe that is the word they should have used. To use the word "order" is to do more than imply "well, as soon as I get around to it, geez, what do you want from me, Mom!? I'll take the garbage out, just let me finish this level!" (Of course, a pre-order system would require an inventory, and that's just not how they roll. So, back to WoW. He's almost done with the quest.) But if the response to that really is, "It takes a long time to make 10,000 discs," then I have to wonder what their expectations really were? On the other hand, I haven't been charged yet. I guess if they're willing to wait for two weeks to start generating income over all this labor, then that's their choice. Since they are "making discs as fast as they can" would not the resultant "shipping discs as fast as they can" enter their equation? Me, I'd generate some income as I can, but I'm not in the DVD production business. Maybe it doesn't work that way - would that be right, Sky? Cheepnis? Of course, that is all just so much mush dribbled down my chin. I won't actually speed the process, so I'm left to wait and vent like a goofball. But mostly, wait. This may be CTs first release, but it isn't EZTakes. They claim to have been around since 2003. I am not impressed so far. Once it arrives, maybe. Maybe the next order will be more impressive. Who knows? Right now, it's "teen in the basement" level of expectations. Hopefully, the Wagon won't read this, or he might lock himself in the basement with his Emma Peel DVD set and sulk. *I say that because I am a man. Were I a woman, I'd say patient woman... **I'm basing this on the "latest order" confirmation number cited by Sky (32692) in post #87, which is more than 14,000 order numbers higher than mine.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Dec 31, 2007 12:32:32 GMT -5
I could see a small company like them waiting for the first load of orders to roll in before they have a large set of DVDs manufactured, rather than guessing how many they need to have on hand without knowing how popular the discs will be. They could then have some idea about the rate of ordering in the future, rather than just taking a wild guess. Not ideal, but certainly understandable.
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Post by Miss Interoceter on Dec 31, 2007 12:38:45 GMT -5
Okay. But still. The kid in the basement should have pressed a couple of discs by now. And there's a few people here who had very early orders. Some orders should be going out. I'm guessing there's no email confirm.
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Post by CBG on Dec 31, 2007 12:39:32 GMT -5
Latest order today at 3:06pm. Confirmation number 32692. Either sales have taken off or they've changed the way they number. I'm pulling for scenario #1. BTW, I don't see any way that listing a confirmation number could be a problem. What is the fear? I ordered on 12/22 and my Order Number: 19233. Any insights?
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Post by GersonK on Dec 31, 2007 13:07:48 GMT -5
A few notes, some repeating what's been said before: (1) Doing a whois shows that EZTakes.com was registered on 13-Jan-04, but DVDWagon.com wasn't registered until 2007-05-19. Did they add the physical end of the business this year, or just the name? (2) Searching for "eztakes sucks" and "dvdwagon sucks" only gave complaints about their software and selection, but most of the hits weren't really about them. No complaints on the consumerist and their BBB record is clean, too. So I suspect we'll get our discs sooner or (more likely) later. (3) "We will notify you by email when your order ships..." from the confirmation mail and the status screen. (4) If the numbers really are running totals, then in a week's time they've gotten 3/4 of their previous order total - which took either 7 months or 4 years to achieve (see #1). Either way, if they were running close to capacity, they're having to figure out a cost-effective way to work much faster. (5) Having said all that, they are a manufacture on demand business, so it still seems odd that no emails have gone out yet for the early orders (I ordered mine a few minutes before Joel said they'd be available, and we're on business day #5, and no still no email).
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Post by xmattxyzx on Dec 31, 2007 13:52:46 GMT -5
Why take orders on something you aren't anywhere near ready to ship? Yes. This is exactly what has been puzzling me. I had been meaning to ask this the night I ordered but couldn't quite phrase it exactly.
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Post by Shark on Dec 31, 2007 14:08:03 GMT -5
Perhaps they needed the cash to buy extra DVD burners.
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Post by Cerrita on Dec 31, 2007 15:13:07 GMT -5
12/21/07 10:46 PM PST #18863
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