yousonuva
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I'm not insane but I am King of the Universe
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Post by yousonuva on Mar 14, 2004 13:04:56 GMT -5
I have a new title. I couldn't be more proud. Oh no. I didn't mean it as a nickname. Literally you're an ass that isn't very smart. I would never be so mean as to nickname someone with THAT word. Sheesh how cruel do you think I am anyway? oh yeah, you're a dumbass hahaha!
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Post by Mister Wilbur on Mar 14, 2004 13:24:42 GMT -5
Why are you calling phantomegineer that? Are you trying to get a moderator mad at you!?!
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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 14, 2004 13:26:38 GMT -5
Phantom does not scare me!
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Post by Mister Wilbur on Mar 14, 2004 13:28:13 GMT -5
Wow, this went off topic.
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yousonuva
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I'm not insane but I am King of the Universe
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Post by yousonuva on Mar 14, 2004 13:30:26 GMT -5
Why are you calling phantomegineer that? Are you trying to get a moderator mad at you!?! I'm a rebel.
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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 14, 2004 13:32:48 GMT -5
With a stupid butt! Hee hee, you have a stupid butt!
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Mar 14, 2004 15:36:50 GMT -5
With a stupid butt! Hee hee, you have a stupid butt! nightfalcawk could you make your posts just a little bit bigger? I'm just not scrolling as much as I like.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Mar 14, 2004 17:08:25 GMT -5
Why are you calling phantomegineer that? Are you trying to get a moderator mad at you!?! Which really would be no big deal. Mods are kinda like trusties in jail. We're still inmates, we just have a few more privileges. I can move threads around and I could do it just to mess with people but then Forrest would just take my modness away. It's not like mods have the power of life and death but that would be cool. I would use it for good, and not for evil. Well maybe a little evil here and there but.... no, just good!
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Post by Mr. Atari on Mar 14, 2004 18:26:41 GMT -5
The Eye might have started out as a single light sensitive cell, and there probably hundreds if not thousands of intermediate steps inbetween. I'll use monkeys typing Hamlet as an example. In order for the monkeys to type the thirteen opening letters by chance it would take 26 to the power of thirteen trials for sucess This would longer than several lifetimes of our solar system. But if each correct letter is kept the process would go much faster. The same is true with the Eye, as the little light sensitive cell evolved to Modern day Eye. Nature would keep each part that works and take out the parts that don't. The Light sensitive cells (Rods and Cones) are the most important part of the Eye and if you don't have them, then you don't really have much of an Eye. The Iris is needed, it is there to control the amount of light that goes into the Eye. The Lens is there to focus the light. And the Cornea is needed to protect the other parts, and to keep the vitreous humor in. The Retina is where all the rods and cones sit. Each part of the Eye is important, without the other parts it wouldn't work. I wonder if we understand each other completely. It sounds to me like you're proving my point. "Each part of the Eye is important, and without the other parts it wouldn't work." That's the exact premise for irreducible complexity. And, as you yourself wrote, "Nature would keep each part that works and take out the parts that don't." Unless every part of the eye is present in a generation, nature wouldn't keep any of them. None of them are beneficial on their own. You don't have multiple generations to get it right. You can start with a single light sensitive cell, but that's not an eyeball. And to get an eyeball, it's all or nothing. Another unexplained evolutionary concept is the adaptation from asexual reproduction to sexual reproduction. Again, you don't get multiple generations of trial and error. One miss and the species is gone.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Mar 14, 2004 18:29:05 GMT -5
Oh, and I meant to mention this before when nightfal brought it up.
The second law of thermodynamics absolutely applies on the molecular level. I can prove it in two words.
Cells die.
And adding energy to a system as a protection against entropy is a nice theory. Except it goes against the First Law of Thermodynamics. And that is, you can't add or take away energy from a system. The system wherein life exists has always had the sun, and yet the second law of thermodynamics has always applied. The sun "adds" nothing to the system on a temporal basis.
#nosmileys
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Post by Mister Wilbur on Mar 14, 2004 19:21:12 GMT -5
Do I look like a fully credenitaled scientist? No! I'm just some maniac with a time machine, I might just do something! Yeah I'll go do something right now!!! I'm going to stop the Universe from forming! JUST TRY AND STOP ME!!! *Throws plunger at wall* I'm such a loser.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Mar 14, 2004 19:26:56 GMT -5
Do I look like a fully credenitaled scientist? No! I'm just some maniac with a time machine, I might just do something! Yeah I'll go do something right now!!! I'm going to stop the Universe from forming! SWEET! Maybe you could go back and tell us firsthand whether or not Darwin was right. Then this whole thread can be put to rest. Or, you could go back to 1955 and help Marty McFly. Tell him the DeLorean won't start until he hits his head on the steering wheel. And can I borrow it next week? I need to go back to last Thursday night so I can pay my phone bill on time.
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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 14, 2004 19:29:26 GMT -5
nightfalcawk could you make your posts just a little bit bigger? I'm just not scrolling as much as I like. Okay, anything for you Phantom! How's that?
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Post by Mister Wilbur on Mar 14, 2004 19:31:08 GMT -5
Okay I'm back, and well, Darwin was right. And I accidentally killed the first life form on Earth, and the effects are going to travel through the time line and destroy all life as we know it. So goodbye folks and have nice End of The World. Bye!
BTW: Nightfalcawk stop making such big posts!
PS: Oh and Everything we know is wrong, it's all made up by a bunch Raul Julia's Clones In a hotel room in a pocket of Space Time.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Mar 14, 2004 19:36:37 GMT -5
Okay I'm back, and well, Darwin was right. And I accidentally killed the first life form on Earth, and the effects are going to travel through the time line and destroy all life as we know it. So goodbye folks and have nice End of The World. Bye! BTW: Nightfalcawk stop making such big posts! Wait- wouldn't we all have died the instant you stepped on ol' Limpy back there? Stupid space-time-continuum paradoxes. Makes...my...whadya call it...hurt. And seriously nightfalcawk. It's getting out of hand.
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