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Post by ProjectedPaul on Apr 7, 2020 17:50:46 GMT -5
I have bad news. I've been in contact with Joshua Murphy from the old MSTieCast podcast. He got in contact with Jordan Fields from Shout Factory. He asked Jordan about the Susan Hart rumors. Here's how Joshua relayed the info to me: "So I asked Jordan at SF about the Hart rumors and he said "We are not licensing the Hart films. Never going to happen". When asked if I could quote him he said "Sure. Fans will be disappointed, of course, but she remains unwilling to license her films."" Before that, in mid-March, I reached out to Daniel Griffith of Ballyhoo Films. I asked him if the Susan Hart case had been completely adjudicated. He replied: "It is Settled" When I provided a link to the Reddit article by Diet Kolos about the Susan Hart case, noting there had been considerable speculation that a licensing deal was close, he replied: "Shout doesn't have a deal with her, that I am sure of" In addition, during the recent Roger Corman 94th Birthday marathon on Shout Factory TV, he posted that it's highly unlikely that his full 3 hour cut of that AIP documentary will ever be released, both on his Facebook and Twitter accounts: So unless Shout and Griffith are keeping a close secret to be revealed later this year, say around San Diego Comic Con, then that's it. Unless this Coronavirus pandemic-induced economic downturn motivates Hart to come back to Shout about a licensing deal, then it appears Shout has moved on.
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Post by ern2150 on Apr 7, 2020 17:55:31 GMT -5
We learned too late that man is a licentious creature
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Post by jocksinclair on Apr 7, 2020 18:19:57 GMT -5
So unless Shout and Griffith are keeping a close secret to be revealed later this year, say around San Diego Comic Con, than that's it. Unless this coronavirus pandemic-induced economic downturn motivates Hart to come back to Shout about a licensing deal, than it appears Shout has moved on. Playing devil's advocate for a second, there are multiple examples of Shout publicly denying that they will release a title, then announcing it within a week. So it's not impossible that this is also a lie, but I do acknowledge it is too implausible to cling to.
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Post by jadenh on Apr 7, 2020 18:20:40 GMT -5
This is just so unfair. I get that people who own the films can do what they want with them, but this is ridiculous. These are B movies we're talking about. It really infuriates me to see people be so uncooperative when it comes to licensing films. Thank Jesus for the BBI vault tape of Attack of the Eye Creatures. Let's hope that the other four Hart films will be found soon.
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Post by jocksinclair on Apr 7, 2020 18:26:57 GMT -5
As far as the other four, DAP has good copies of the two SciFi episodes, Rhino's "Colossal Man" release looks pretty solid, and Kolos has demonstrated that "It Conquered The World" never had a good clean copy, the master itself appear to have been damaged.
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Post by jadenh on Apr 7, 2020 18:46:19 GMT -5
Yeah, true. The Sci-Fi episodes are much more recent. So, the tapes of those haven't degraded as much as say a recording of The Crawling Eye from 1990. I'm probably gonna buy Amazing Colossal Man on VHS at some point, do a digital transfer, and combine it with the Satellite Dishes host segments. I'm surprised that Amazing Colossal Man isn't actually that expensive. At least, it's nowhere near as expensive as Godzilla Vs. Megalon. And yeah, I heard that It Conquered the World is unfortunately damaged. There might not be much you can do with that one.
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Post by ProjectedPaul on Apr 7, 2020 19:11:54 GMT -5
So unless Shout and Griffith are keeping a close secret to be revealed later this year, say around San Diego Comic Con, than that's it. Unless this coronavirus pandemic-induced economic downturn motivates Hart to come back to Shout about a licensing deal, than it appears Shout has moved on. Playing devil's advocate for a second, there are multiple examples of Shout publicly denying that they will release a title, then announcing it within a week. So it's not impossible that this is also a lie, but I do acknowledge it is too implausible to cling to. Never say never. Just recently The Film Detective releasing label announced that they have remastered and restored several of Wade Williams' titles for a licensed release. Plan 9 was licensed to an unknown label apparently, according to this site:
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Post by said43 on Apr 7, 2020 19:44:51 GMT -5
I believe the copyright expires after 95 years under U.S copyright law. We could all live to see a release if we start taking our vitamins.
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Post by cinemaodyssey on Apr 7, 2020 20:16:39 GMT -5
Now that the Susan Hart issue is settled for now, it would be nice to get Jordan Fields to comment on the KTMAs. He hasn't really talked about the possibility of releasing them in quite a long time.
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Post by foreign object on Apr 8, 2020 7:30:28 GMT -5
Damn, that AIP doc would have been cool. Pretty sad in these dark and dreary times that Hart and Williams wouldn't give us a little something to brighten our day.
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Post by timmy on Apr 8, 2020 15:19:47 GMT -5
I believe the copyright expires after 95 years under U.S copyright law. We could all live to see a release if we start taking our vitamins. for now (which i think 95 years is too long to begin with but that is another story for another day).
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Post by timmy on Apr 8, 2020 15:23:30 GMT -5
Damn, that AIP doc would have been cool. Pretty sad in these dark and dreary times that Hart and Williams wouldn't give us a little something to brighten our day. when they have past from this world (someday), we might get them release (even if Williams says he doesn't ever want the MST3K version release and has said he will put in his will he doesn't/cant be release) we will get them release down the line (death or 95 years after release what ever comes first).
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Post by zombiewhacker on Apr 9, 2020 16:28:07 GMT -5
I'm confused then... if all this back and forth between Hart and Shout wasn't about negotiating rights to her AIP titles, what was the dust-up all about... and who, in your opinion, finally "won"?
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Post by timmy on Apr 9, 2020 17:10:21 GMT -5
I'm confused then... if all this back and forth between Hart and Shout wasn't about negotiating rights to her AIP titles, what was the dust-up all about... and who, in your opinion, finally "won"? at this point who knows. its Hart, she sues at a drop of a hat.
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Post by jocksinclair on Apr 9, 2020 18:56:52 GMT -5
I'm confused then... if all this back and forth between Hart and Shout wasn't about negotiating rights to her AIP titles, what was the dust-up all about... and who, in your opinion, finally "won"? I would assume that it was limited to exactly what it said, a lawsuit regarding the use of promotional material in the doc. As for who "won" -- Shout was able to obtain the license, Susan Hart likely got paid some money, so they both got something they wanted and something they didn't want... I'd say the winners are people who would buy the relevant set (vol 37? 38? I forget) but haven't yet.
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