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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 9, 2022 8:32:16 GMT -5
The Godzilla episodes will never be released again. Or, if they are, Toho will issue a C&D or sue to have them quickly removed from the market, I suspect even if Shout goes through Janus. I don't think the Gamera example is particularly relevant because Kadokawa is not as litigious or protective of its monster property and films as Toho has been. (Unlicensed "public domain" copies of the Gamera films have existed on the market for decades. Toho has quickly C&D'd similar such releases of "Godzilla vs. Megalon" and "Ghidrah" in the same time frame.) It might also matter that the Gamera episodes were correctly and legally licensed by BBI in the first place whereas the Godzilla movies shown on MST3K were not. Megalon and Sea Monster were both purely through luck - the former with an assumed public domain status and the latter through FVI.
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Post by kracker on Jan 11, 2022 23:17:42 GMT -5
Even though this ship has sailed, the workaround would have been to have Criterion license and release the two MST3K episodes in that extravagant Godzilla boxset as extras, the same way they put episodes of Documentary Now as extras on the respective films they are parodying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 23:44:04 GMT -5
Even though this ship has sailed, the workaround would have been to have Criterion license and release the two MST3K episodes in that extravagant Godzilla boxset as extras, the same way they put episodes of Documentary Now as extras on the respective films they are parodying. That would have put those episodes in Janus' hands (temporarily), but they never would have made it onto the discs because Toho never would have cleared them. That's the problem, ultimately, that Toho has a say in what bonus content can or cannot be included on stateside releases.
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Post by Torgo on Jan 12, 2022 7:14:52 GMT -5
Criterion never in a million years would have gotten away with that. Media Blasters got on Toho's shitlist for adding a couple photos in a photo gallery and an alternate English dub track on their Destroy All Monsters disc, and that was enough for Toho to sweep down and just halt their entire production for over a year until they just agreed to release the movie barebones.
Criterion's Godzilla set has been blasted for being light on special features and using lackluster transfers. But that's not their fault, Toho told them "This is what you can do" and they have to play ball.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Jan 31, 2022 13:38:46 GMT -5
Was digging through the the Classic Horror Film forum for any news about various things, and stumbled across someone asking if Olive films still exists. Apparently they haven't released anything new in over a year and don't seem to be releasing anything new in the future, and appear to be burning off their inventory.
So unless Kino or someone else swoops in and gets Deadly Bees, et al., Shout may finally be able to license them.
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Post by majorjoe23 on Jan 31, 2022 19:38:41 GMT -5
They haven’t tweeted or posted to Facebook since June of 2021, so that doesn’t seem like a good sign for them.
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Post by kidflash on Feb 1, 2022 2:02:51 GMT -5
They haven’t tweeted or posted to Facebook since June of 2021, so that doesn’t seem like a good sign for them. That is bizarre. You'd think that the folks who keep up with the ins and outs of classic media would've noticed or said *something* by now.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Feb 4, 2022 15:16:19 GMT -5
Hopefully this gives Shout an opportunity to license them out. Though I heard this pandemic could also fall into play with licensing delays.
Shame to hear about Olive, though. Their lack of social media posts for the last 6-7 months isn’t a good sign.
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Post by kracker on Feb 4, 2022 19:50:54 GMT -5
it makes sense that after i went through all that trouble for the Delta Knights download, an announcement for a box with Delta Knights and the three Olive Films would be right around the corner.
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Post by Udvarnoky on Feb 11, 2022 11:36:01 GMT -5
Apologies if I'm retreading old ground, but I've noticed that Volumes XXXI and XXXIV went out of print in 2020. A reminder of what they included:
XXXI:
203 - Jungle Goddess 510 - The Painted Hills 912 - The Screaming Skull 1012 - Squirm
XXXIV:
317 - Viking Women Vs. The Sea Serpent 319 - War Of The Colossal Beast 806 - The Undead 808 - The She-Creature
It's not clear what's going on with XXXIV, as all those episodes seem to be readily available digitally. It could be that there are no rights issues at all and Shout! just opted not to reprint after selling out their stock. I do notice that Viking Women is absent from VHX, which is suspicious because the big collection there generally seems to represent all that Shout! currently has the digital rights to. Might want to keep an eye out and see whether the episode starts disappearing from other places.
The culprit with Volume XXXI is almost certainly Squirm. Unfortunately that's one of the episodes that Shout! only ever had physical media rights to, so the expiration of the license means it joins the likes of Final Sacrifice and Soultaker as an episode that has exited commercial availability.
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Post by jadenh on Feb 11, 2022 17:24:59 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure volume XXXIV got pulled from shelves due to one of the special features, some sort of documentary. It probably showed a 1 second clip of a Susan Hart film that they didn't pay $3,000,000,000 for.
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Post by Torgo on Feb 11, 2022 19:24:00 GMT -5
Susan Hart sued Shout over images from her films being used in the AIP documentary on XXXIV. All of the movies are still under license, but they couldn't keep the set in print with the documentary intact.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Feb 12, 2022 12:01:00 GMT -5
Squirm being the offender wouldn’t surprise me given Jeff Lieberman’s rage with the show.
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Post by MikeSTZillak on Feb 18, 2022 14:46:45 GMT -5
Apologies if I'm retreading old ground, but I've noticed that Volumes XXXI and XXXIV went out of print in 2020. A reminder of what they included: XXXI: 203 - Jungle Goddess 510 - The Painted Hills 912 - The Screaming Skull 1012 - Squirm XXXIV: 317 - Viking Women Vs. The Sea Serpent 319 - War Of The Colossal Beast 806 - The Undead 808 - The She-Creature It's not clear what's going on with XXXIV, as all those episodes seem to be readily available digitally. It could be that there are no rights issues at all and Shout! just opted not to reprint after selling out their stock. I do notice that Viking Women is absent from VHX, which is suspicious because the big collection there generally seems to represent all that Shout! currently has the digital rights to. Might want to keep an eye out and see whether the episode starts disappearing from other places. The culprit with Volume XXXI is almost certainly Squirm. Unfortunately that's one of the episodes that Shout! only ever had physical media rights to, so the expiration of the license means it joins the likes of Final Sacrifice and Soultaker as an episode that has exited commercial availability. Think the Turkey Day collection has been OOP for a while now. Not just in 2020
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Post by jcm on Apr 3, 2022 4:04:38 GMT -5
I didn't want to start a whole new thread just to pose this question. It really has less to do with the likelihood of Shout! releasing these episodes on DVD. Rather, my question is regarding the status of the masters of the episodes, unreleased on Home Video or not.
Does anyone know if Shout! has done proper digital backups of the master tapes? I realize this is likely a silly question, but, it would be nice to know that however unlikely the Susan Hart movies or any of the others will ever see a release, at least they are archived for posterity should the opportunity arise.
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