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Post by sirveaux on Nov 1, 2006 10:27:48 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about Batwoman? I'm just wondering if something similar is happening with that, because DeepDiscountDVD no longer has it on their site, and prices everywhere else seem slightly higher than they used to be. I was very curious on this also. It seems to be harder to find cheap like some of the others and not very many used copies anywhere (only 8 copies on Amazon, where others seem to have at least 50 listed). I didn't want to risk another "Beginning of the End", so I bought it from half.com a couple weeks ago.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Nov 1, 2006 13:14:39 GMT -5
Well, I could understand Rhino cutting back on production of the individual-disc releases, seeing as though the sets are probably more popular and profitable. I just hope they don't lose it entirely. I actually thought Batwoman was Public Domain. Anyone want to clarify?
I fell in love with Batwoman, watching it over YouTube a while ago. I honestly think it's possibly the worst film they ever had on the show, and I love it for that. Must get it!
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Post by travis on Nov 1, 2006 22:18:17 GMT -5
Well, I could understand Rhino cutting back on production of the individual-disc releases, seeing as though the sets are probably more popular and profitable. I just hope they don't lose it entirely. I actually thought Batwoman was Public Domain. Anyone want to clarify? Wild World of Batwoman is not PD. It was not licensed from Crown International, so it will not being going out of print from the BCI deal. "The Hell Cats" will though. If the single-discs are becoming harder to find, it's likely some sellers just prefer stocking box sets of TV series, rather than single disc releases.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Nov 2, 2006 1:05:18 GMT -5
So can we assume that Hellcats will be disappearing... when? Closer to March, when they lose Sidehackers? I've not heard an official announcement yet.
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Post by hsauertieg on Nov 2, 2006 22:15:34 GMT -5
I don't believe any of Rhino's "reasons" for their slipshod business practices. The bottom line is that the box sets are a rip-off. Most of the films they release are PD or licensed in perpetuity to Best Brains. No way did they "lose the rights" to the films on Vols. 1 and 3 - they just don't sell anymore, so they want to stop making new ones. Rhino is just incompetent and untrustworthy. Has anyone ever tried to watch the Acme Video (subsidiary of Rhino) version of SLIME PEOPLE? The original mono soundtrack on that disc was converted to some fake stereo where all the dialogue is on the right channel and the "sound effects" are willy-nilly in both channels, regardless of the motion of objects on the screen. It's totally unwatchable and there was no reason to mess with the soundtrack in the first place.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Nov 2, 2006 23:21:46 GMT -5
I don't believe any of Rhino's "reasons" for their slipshod business practices. The bottom line is that the box sets are a rip-off. Most of the films they release are PD or licensed in perpetuity to Best Brains. No way did they "lose the rights" to the films on Vols. 1 and 3 - they just don't sell anymore, so they want to stop making new ones. Rhino is just incompetent and untrustworthy. Has anyone ever tried to watch the Acme Video (subsidiary of Rhino) version of SLIME PEOPLE? The original mono soundtrack on that disc was converted to some fake stereo where all the dialogue is on the right channel and the "sound effects" are willy-nilly in both channels, regardless of the motion of objects on the screen. It's totally unwatchable and there was no reason to mess with the soundtrack in the first place. People on this board have actually researched the rights to all the movies shown on MST3K. If you can provide evidence in your favor, fine, but so far there are people here who have done their homework. At least one or two have. Care to speak up, guys? What's the report on these episodes? Oh, and we all are aware of Rhino's incompetance. We're well-familiar with it.
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Post by hsauertieg on Nov 3, 2006 1:06:24 GMT -5
People on this board have actually researched the rights to all the movies shown on MST3K. Rhino may be looking for a few good men like these.
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Post by yarg on Nov 3, 2006 1:20:00 GMT -5
I bought the 1st set last week. A couple of weird things I noticed: 1. The print on the uncut version of Catalina Caper is worse and obviously different from the one MST3K used, which has the Warner Bros. logo at the beginning instead of Crown International. It's kind of weird when they're getting movies from different sources than BBI did originally, but I guess with a movie as worthless as Catalina Caper nobody cares. 2. Bloodlust is also licensed from Crown International even though there are dozens of cheap $1 DVDs of it that assume it's public domain and aren't bothering to license it.
All the episodes on the 1st set as well as Sidehackers, Wild Rebels, and Hellcats came from Crown International. My guess is that since everything on the 1st set has expired, and Sidehackers is expiring next Spring, that Rhino must get to use these movies for a couple of years and it will be a while before Wild Rebels is affected.
Rights are really tricky, but interesting. Most of these movies, especially the old ones, really SHOULD be public domain. It's unfair for people to just squat on them and keep them hidden.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Nov 3, 2006 13:27:37 GMT -5
All the episodes on the 1st set as well as Sidehackers, Wild Rebels, and Hellcats came from Crown International. My guess is that since everything on the 1st set has expired, and Sidehackers is expiring next Spring, that Rhino must get to use these movies for a couple of years and it will be a while before Wild Rebels is affected. That doesn't make sense with Hellcats, though. Hellcats predates the Wild Rebels and (I think) Sidehackers releases, and yet it's still available and no announcement has been made.
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Post by Donna SadCat Lady on Nov 9, 2006 21:41:35 GMT -5
FYI... it may be too late for volume 10, but anyone who's been waiting to get 1 and 3 may want to take advantage of Deep Discount DVD's big semi-annual "20% off everything" sale. Use coupon code SUPERSALE at checkout to receive the discount. It's good from Friday, Nov. 10, through Saturday, Nov. 18.
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Post by travis on Nov 10, 2006 8:07:56 GMT -5
Rhino should take advantage that they have The Slime People, and put that out in a future set (it's funnier than The Crawling Hand IMO). I don't believe any of Rhino's "reasons" for their slipshod business practices. The bottom line is that the box sets are a rip-off. Most of the films they release are PD or licensed in perpetuity to Best Brains. No way did they "lose the rights" to the films on Vols. 1 and 3 - they just don't sell anymore, so they want to stop making new ones. Actually, you're wrong there. Rhino had the rights to Crown International's film library for a few years, but BCI Eclipse is now taking over releasing them. Each movie only had a contract so long on it, and then they go to Brentwood for a possible release. The box sets could be cheaper (and therefore sell more) if they used their heads. Including one or two PD episodes every set could save them money, enabling them to give us a better price. There are two dozen+ PD movie episodes for them to choose from. I bought the 1st set last week. A couple of weird things I noticed: 1. The print on the uncut version of Catalina Caper is worse and obviously different from the one MST3K used, which has the Warner Bros. logo at the beginning instead of Crown International. It's kind of weird when they're getting movies from different sources than BBI did originally, but I guess with a movie as worthless as Catalina Caper nobody cares. 2. Bloodlust is also licensed from Crown International even though there are dozens of cheap $1 DVDs of it that assume it's public domain and aren't bothering to license it. Warner had the TV rights to Catalina Caper when BBI licensed it, and then it reverted to Crown years later (or while Crown maintained home video rights). You have to remember that TV rights and home video rights can be very different sometimes. Bloodlust is similar to Phantom Planet in that it has been assumed PD by countless companies, but still has someone with "legit" rights. All the episodes on the 1st set as well as Sidehackers, Wild Rebels, and Hellcats came from Crown International. My guess is that since everything on the 1st set has expired, and Sidehackers is expiring next Spring, that Rhino must get to use these movies for a couple of years and it will be a while before Wild Rebels is affected. Seems like it's about 5 years or so. It's very possible MST3kinfo.com overlooked The Hellcats, since it's only a single-disc release.
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Post by gammer on Nov 13, 2006 10:44:09 GMT -5
I find this whole rights thing fascinating.
I’m just glad that the people who own the rights to these movies don’t go after the fans who are selling the broadcast versions of MST or go after DAP. As it would seem to me that eventually, most episodes will only be available this way.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Nov 13, 2006 16:32:06 GMT -5
Let's just hope they don't start eventually cracking down on it. I could easily see it happening, if enough fuss was made over it. I doubt it'll happen anytime soon, though. Let's be careful not to tip them off, just to be safe. First rule about the DAP: Don't talk about the DAP.
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Post by DoggieGoWalkies? on Nov 15, 2006 9:10:32 GMT -5
Let's just hope they don't start eventually cracking down on it. I could easily see it happening, if enough fuss was made over it. I doubt it'll happen anytime soon, though. Let's be careful not to tip them off, just to be safe. First rule about the DAP: Don't talk about the DAP. I am Jack's lack of discretion .
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Post by Tor Johnson on Nov 19, 2006 15:56:09 GMT -5
They should at least repackage The Unearthly in Essentials 2 with maybe #521-Santa Claus, since Unearthly is one of the best episodes ever.
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